Argenland Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 TO: Leaders of all europeans nations, without differences. FROM: Prime Minister Gabriel Costa. SUBJECT: EU Proposal.  The militaries alliances are dividing countries and peoples more and more. This, join with the continouslly increase of numbers of civils wars, rebels groups who wants defeat the currents regimes and somes countries who enter in a country that ceased to exist only for interest too, are making a no-safest world for the life. For this and somes reasons more, Argenland propose to all nations of Europa the creation of a multinational union for regularisation of the worse problem of this world: humans. We open doors to all nation. Since the newest to oldest. All. Think about it. First, I must know who wants to enter here. Later, with the members countries we ought to write a Constitution (with few but basic articles). This is only the beginning.  Best wishes, Gabriel Costa. Prime Minister of Argenland.  Members . Argenland Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 isn't this the same as the PoA, the CPA and the EPA? Link to comment
Ide Jima Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 How would you go about regularisation of humanity? Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 The Holy Empire of Tagmatium is dead against this proposal. Link to comment
Vanarambaion Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Vanaramabion will sit in on negotiations, but demands that any Constitution allows countries to opt out of policies that will remove sovereignty, or compromise the interests of member nations. Link to comment
Argenland Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 TO: Leaders of all europeans nations, without differences. FROM: Prime Minister Gabriel Costa. SUBJECT: EU Proposal.  My idea of an EU is like the UN: an organisation who proclaim resolution and the members should (not always) adopt. Too, I propose the organsation of an multinational peace-keeping army for countries who ceased to exist (like the problem of BW, Abyssio, and others) and, with this way, avoide wars. This isn't a military alliance and you can make what you want in this matters. The idea is: put some limits and protect the humans rights (childrens, woman, and others).  An special comittee of Argenland has written a model of Constitution based in my ideas:  With a common vision of peace, a similar dream for prosperity, and a united desire for order amongst the nations, the nations of Europa do hereby remake a Union of the nations of Europa to serve its people and their posterity.  Article One: Membership  Membership in the European Union, and full voting privileges, is the right of every European nation and shall be afforded to any sovereign state wishing to send a representative.  Article Two: European Parliament  1. Each nation of Europa shall send one representative to the European Parliament and be afforded one (1) vote within the Parliament.  2. The European Parliament will be the primary policymaking body of the European Union, and resolutions shall be approved by a two-thirds (2/3) plurality of submitted ballots.  3. Each resolution shall be voted upon for a period of five full days, after which point it is to be considered international law by the nations of Europa.  4. Every representative in the European Parliament has the right to propose resolutions to be voted upon by the members of Parliament as described in Sections Two and Three of this Article.  5. Resolutions to amend this Charter may be voted upon by the European Parliament and take the said effect after five days? time.  Article Three: Enforcement  1. Each member nation of the European Union is within its full rights to enforce resolutions of the European Parliament (using force if necessary) and to the extent deemed necessary by the European Court of Justice and the President of the European Parliament.  2. The President of the European Parliament is charged with maintaining order within the Parliament and organizing international efforts to enforce resolutions of Parliament.  3. The President of the European Parliament will be elected every three (3) months by the Parliament. All members are eligible to field candidates and the candidate with the most votes will be declared the victor.  Article Four: European Court of Justice  1. The powers of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) shall rest in the hands of the Chief Justice of the Union, who is to be elected in the same manner as the President of the European Parliament and serve terms of the same duration.  2. Members may appeal the application of resolutions of the European Parliament to the ECJ, which may decide if the President of the European Parliament and member nations are executing the resolutions in the correct manner.  3. The ECJ may also nullify resolutions that violate the rights of European nations as found in Article Five.  Article Five: Rights of Members  1. Affected nations may appeal the legitimacy of a resolution to the European Court of Justice if it violates the rights of a member state to govern itself and provide for its citizens' welfare as it sees fit through domestic policy.  2. Each nation has the right to oversee its own fiscal and domestic policy without the oversight of the European Parliament, and any other matters of law or policy that do not stand in gross violation of the European Declaration of Rights or have the primary intention of interfering with the internal policy of other nations.  Article Six: Ex Post Facto  Rulings of the European Union Assembly, protocols of the European Court of Justice, and all other matters of international law and procedure as observed by the European Union previous to the adoption of this Charter shall be respected and enforced by the European Union under the Second Charter.  Im agree with Vanarambaion. A multinational organism can't remove the sovereignty of a nation.  Waiting yours answers, Gabriel Costa. Prime Minister of Argenland. Link to comment
Amnalos Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I didn't like the idea of an International Court of Justice in the UN, and I won't support it here. Link to comment
Vanarambaion Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Here's a modified Charter that I like better. See what you think.   With a common vision of peace, a similar dream for prosperity, and a united desire for order amongst the nations, the nations of Europa do hereby remake a Union of the nations of Europa to serve its people and their posterity.  Article One: Membership  Membership in the European Union, and full voting privileges, is the right of every European nation and shall be afforded to any sovereign state wishing to send a representative.  Article Two: European Parliament  1. Each nation of Europa shall send representatives to the European Parliament. Each nation will have proportional representation in this body based on the population of the nation. No more than 10 members will be allowed from any one nation.  2. The European Parliament will be the primary policymaking body of the European Union, and resolutions shall be approved by a two-thirds (2/3) plurality of submitted ballots.  3. Each resolution shall be voted upon for a period of five full days, after which point it is to be considered international law by the nations of Europa.  4. Every representative in the European Parliament has the right to propose resolutions to be voted upon by the members of Parliament as described in Sections Two and Three of this Article.  5. Resolutions to amend this Charter may be voted upon by the European Parliament and take the said effect after five days? time. Said amendments require a 4/5 majority to be enacted.  Article Three: Enforcement  1. Each member nation of the European Union is within its full rights to enforce resolutions of the European Parliament (using force if necessary).  2. The Executive Council is charged with organizing and encouraging international compliance with laws passed by the European Parliament.  3. The Executive Council shall be made up of one representative from each member nation of the Union. Chaimanship of the Council will rotate on a monthly basis designated by the Council.  Article Four: Rights of Members  Each nation has the right to oversee its own fiscal and domestic policy without the oversight of the European Parliament, and any other matters of law or policy that do not stand in gross violation of the European Declaration of Rights or have the primary intention of interfering with the internal policy of other nations.  Article Five: Ex Post Facto  All matters of international law and procedure as observed by the European Union previous to the adoption of this Charter shall be respected and enforced by the European Union under the Second Charter. Link to comment
Haken Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 OOC (or is this IC?): But we like war Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I agree with Haken. It would get a bit boring with out a war every now and then. That's why SSSS was so good. He wasn't afraid to do a bit of war-mongering every now and then. Civil wars and rebelions also add a bit of excitement to the mix. Link to comment
Akiiryu Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Pandemics might be interesting...(evil laugh) Link to comment
Argenland Posted April 11, 2005 Author Share Posted April 11, 2005 Yes, this is true. But you should think that we don't have "wars laws" (all nations here puts troops and make fights without limits). In this way, I can have 100000000000000000000000000 troops on foot, 500000000000 boats in the navy and 2000000000000 fighters.... or more, if I want. At least, if you don't want to limit the must, you should limit the war. Â Another think that I don't want anymore is the continuouslly abuse of the rules. Lots of countries invades "ceased of exist countries" wanting more plots to expanding without the population to do it. Â Make that you want. Close this topic. Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 Another think that I don't want anymore is the continuouslly abuse of the rules. Lots of countries invades "ceased of exist countries" wanting more plots to expanding without the population to do it. When so? If that means the Cenapes, well, I didn't really want them. If that's a comment on Abyssio, then poo you. Link to comment
Akiiryu Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 OOC: Â In my, admittedly limited experience, any one who tried to godmode gets "thumped" pretty quick (and their actions ignored). As to the landing thing...we'll geez that's part of the game, more often than not - again in my limited experience - people don't really seem to be claiming the lands rather role playing through them. Link to comment
Ide Jima Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 OOC (or is this IC?): But we like war I couldnt agree more... Link to comment
Vanarambaion Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 No one said this would premanently end war. The RLUN can't even do that. And we'll be needing a new "bad guy" around shortly. Link to comment
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