antargis Intercontinental Antargic Administration Land Claim

[Seylos]

IAA
Intercontinental Antargic Administration

(Temporary flag)

History:

Two major Antargic negotiations came and passed and left many nations around the globe disillusioned that any progress will ever be made. Frustrated at the perceived failure of these talks as well as the waning presence of the ISTC in Antargis, several nations began early talks into stepping onto Argis together. The group knew they were bound to make several enemies in the process, however a large scale effort working together could enforce a collective claim.

Present Day Mission:

After several years of planning, their efforts would be set into motion. The IAA was formalized in a treaty between the contributing nations and funding allocated to begin the creation of an IAA supply base on the Winfield Islands (A temporary name) just north of the Antargic mainland. The purpose of this base will be to provide permanent housing and research space as well as a safe supply depot for efforts that are set up on the mainland.

The collective nations put forth their claim to a slice of Antargis and began to move forward with their plan. The UNS Revelation, a new large nuclear powered science vessel, would depart from Norfolk in Seylos and set a course for the Winfield Islands. Onboard would be a complement of a hundred scientists, engineers, and support staff that would begin the construction efforts of Winfield Base. Also departing from Kaseka, and additional supply ship would rendezvous with Revelation bringing additional supplies and personnel needed for setting up Joint Base Winfield.

Once they arrive construction would begin. A temporary floating dock would be erected and temporary buildings created. Revelation’s nuclear engines would provide the necessary power on land until more permanent energy generating methods are brought in by the supply ship. After establishing themselves, the expedition will begin the task of constructing permanent structures. Once it is deemed safe, Revelation will depart the islands leaving behind a helicopter, a 47 foot Motor Lifeboat, and large quantities of supplies. The supply ship will remain on station for the duration of construction.

The group knows that this decision will ruffle some feathers in the international community, however they are prepared to face whatever obstacles they run into in the course of establishing themselves on the frozen continent while at the same time actively welcoming any new potential member nations in the spirit of international cooperation.

Current IAA Members:

IAA membership is open to all who wish to join and commit funding to Antargic exploration and research. Member states are to pledge to use the continent for non-military purposes and for the greater good of the planet as a whole. Member states who join will have immediate access to IAA resources and administrative zones. The following are the current member states involved with the IAA.

• @Ahrana
• @Ateenia
• @Baltica
• @Esonice
• @Garindina
• @Gotneska
• @Seylos
• @Tagmatium Rules
• @Xio

[Orioni]

On 8/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, Seylos said:

Frustrated at the perceived failure of these talks

What is this based on?

On 8/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, Seylos said:

the waning presence of the ISTC in Antargis

There are 2 remaining active members of the ISTC, namely @Gallambria and @Iverica.

On 8/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, Seylos said:

several nations began early talks into stepping onto Argis together [...] After several years of planning, their efforts would be set into motion.

Where can we read this?

On 8/4/2023 at 9:10 PM, Seylos said:

The collective nations put forth their claim to a slice of Antargis [...]  funding allocated to begin the creation of an IAA supply base on the Winfield Islands (A temporary name) just north of the Antargic mainland.

Claims are explicitly prohibited by the Antargic Regulation Treaty of Human Activities (article 4). As a signatory, I'll encourage the NAU to join the ARTHA (article 11). Setting up a base in the CAOS zone also brings the ISTC into this (article 12).

This is going to be interested.

[Seylos]

Hey O.

This was just putting the forth the general plan, the RPs for this haven't started yet. It's something all of us will need to coordinate. However considering how long diplomatic negotiations posts tend to fizzle out, I think I'd like to gather all of our discussions and post them as a coherent document all at once before going forward with character RP. Apologies if I jumped the gun, there was a lot of excitement over this and we are going to get it all written out in detail for you.

It is worth stating that all these nations going into this are not ARTHA signatories, so the ARTHA treaty does not apply.

[Orioni]

Speaking for myself, I'm Not a huge fan of diplomatic RP either. The goal of these comments isn't to be a spoilsport and block this story, but ensuring we take the existing lore into account, and that includes ARTHA.

On 8/7/2023 at 5:28 PM, Seylos said:

It is worth stating that all these nations going into this are not ARTHA signatories, so the ARTHA treaty does not apply.

Clause 12 describes what signatories should do when non-signatories arrive in Antargis: "It is the duty of the Responsibles to ensure the safety of their zone. In case of actions violating the said treaty by a non-Signatory, it is the duty of the Responsible to take actions to counter these actions." The words "safety" and "actions to counter" can mean anything here, leaving the door open for whatever an icebreaker can do. So IC I'd encourage IAA to join the ARTHA, but can't force anyone to do that. Next I'd call on ISTC and Girkmand to do the same: "The Responsible may call for help from other Signatories, and those shall respond in order to ensure its success." After that, there's no clear path of action. I have some IC ideas, but will leave those for a vaguely threatening letter.

Alternatively, if you backdate the story as proposed on Discord, and the IAA spring out of the ground fully formed and straight onto Antargis, there isn't much this treaty can actually do about it. Less realistic, but achieves the goal.

[Orioni]

ℹ️ Summary of discussions in the Discord thread from 7-8 August 2023.

1. Flag Design: The chat began with @Xio suggesting a flag design symbolizing Antargis, with a blue sky, cold ocean, and a unique constellation.
2. Discussion Initiation: @Seylos starts a conversation, pinging various users, about creating a treaty. Several users quickly acknowledge and respond.
3. Geothermal Research Facility: @Garindina suggests establishing a geothermal research facility on one of the islands. This idea is supported by Seylos (NAU) due to the benefits of geothermal power generation.
4. ISTC: @Esonice inquires about the ISTC. Seylos explains it's a historical scientific organization, with only a couple of active members remaining.
5. Meeting Discussions: It's suggested that instead of real-time meetings, individuals can make a single post to express their views on the treaty, which can then be compiled.
6. Historical Context: Seylos provides a list of links to past meetings and treaties, giving background information to newcomers about Antargis.
7. Flag Design Continued: The conversation returns to the flag design. Multiple ideas for the constellation are discussed, including various birds, whales, and others. Ultimately, they seem to converge on a whale, naming it "Balaena".
8. Thread Planning: The group deliberates on where and when to start a new thread for their discussions. It should be after the "3rd antargic meeting" or after 2020.
9. Conclusion: The group agrees on further brainstorming and refining their ideas before finalizing decisions.

[Gaellicia]

I would love to be involved, I have a bunch of other RP to knock out but this is definitely something that interests me!

[Orioni]

@Seylos I figured out a solution that likely works without creating a conflict.

1. We shift the ISTC area, so it aligns with the Adisi Ocean,
2. plop Simon Station on down there (moved slightly to the east, same for the port),
3. and this overlapping claim becomes ISTC's problem.
4. Plus, the ISTC-area becomes a LOT bigger.

Here's how that could work.

[Seylos]

I'm still very confused about the claims in the area. The last image I saw that showed some discussion (beyond the like 20 or so zones from the 3rd meeting) was this:


 

What are the actual claims right now?

[Orioni]

(1) As you know through your participation in the RP, the 3rd Antargic Council ended with no new decisions regarding zone management. Ideas were floated IC, but nothing IC ended up being decided regarding zone management.

This TL;DR sums it up pretty clearly:

This means the previous agreement, from the 2nd Antargic Council, remains in effect. This specified the ISTC zone from 135°W to 165°W, while “the other zones outside of this area fall under the management of EOS.” (During the 3rd, EOS was replaced with CAOS, to comply with everyone's demands.)

(2) About that map you just shared: it was a draft proposal that was never used IC anywhere. The filename is "map-of-eurth-20200510-topo.png" (i.e. 10 March 2020), so created between the 1st post and 2nd post in the storyline of the 3rd Antargic Council.