Gaellicia Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) So after a discussion on Discord some of us came up with an idea. So the way Eurth works, there is not such a great disparity in power between nations as there is IRL. As a result we may as a community get to a point where we have more nations looking to produce naval and military equipment than there is existing producers in OTL, and thus a source of skins/reference images. To potentially head this off I figured it would be useful to have one central place to document IRL ships being used by Eurth players for reference images. That way players looking to produce their own ships will be able to see what is already in use. This can then help in making gameplay decisions, whether they want to buy, license, etc. an existing IC design or whether they want to introduce an untapped design. My idea for this thread is that here in this first post I'll make a table or list of some kind collecting all current tech. Post will be edited by myself or, if they like, moderators with edit ability as new ships get added. My hope for this thread is that it won't be just claiming ships and designs and such but also a discussion. A place for us to hash out/discuss Eurth naval architecture. We'll be able to trace design philosophies/characteristics across nations. Major Surface Combatants (Blue Water) Aircraft Carriers Champion of Christ Class IC Ship Class: Protathlitai tou Khristou (Champion of Christ) class IRL Ship Class: Gerald Ford Class Role: CATOBAR Carrier Country of Origin: Tagmatium and Adaptus Operators: Tagmatium and Adaptus República Class IC Ship Class: República C class IRL Ship Class: Kitty Hawk class (Skin Only) Role: Nuclear powered CATOBAR carrier. Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica King Albert Class IC Ship Class: King Albert class IRL Ship Class: Queen Elizabeth class Role: STOVL Carrier Country of Origin: Gallambria Operators: Gallambria Liorán Class IC Ship Class: Liorán class IRL Ship Class: CVA-01 (Never Built) Role: STOBAR Carrier, converted from CATOBAR Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Notes: Single ship held in reserves. Nominally maintenance category C. Mavini Class IC Ship Class: Mavini D class IRL Ship Class: Charles de Gaulle Role: CATOBAR Carrier Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica Perseus Class IC Ship Class: Perseus class IRL Ship Class: Izumo Class Role: Helicopter Carrier Country of Origin: Orioni Operators: Orioni Amphibious Warfare/Landing/Support Sant Anton/City Class IC Ship Class: Sant Anton/City class IRL Ship Class: Mistral class Role: Amphibious Assault and Command Ship Country of Origin: Gallambria and Iverica Operators: Gallambria and Iverica Limanion Class IC Ship Class: Limanion class IRL Ship Class: ??? Role: Light Carrier/Amphibious Assault Ship Country of Origin: Tagmatium and Adaptus Operators: Tagmatium and Adaptus Oris Class IC Ship Class: Oris class IRL Ship Class: Dokdo class Role: Amphibious Assault Carrier Country of Origin: Orioni Operators: Orioni Challenger Class IC Ship Class: Challenger class IRL Ship Class: San Antonio class Role: Landing Platform Dock Country of Origin: Gallambria Operators: Gallambria Taniwha LPD IC Ship Class: Taniwha/Gaellician LPD IRL Ship Class: Galicia class and Rotterdam class Role: Landing Platform Dock Country of Origin: Gallambria and Gaellicia Operators: Gallambria and Gaellicia Gaellician Landing Support Ship IC Ship Class: Uhh idk still naming IRL Ship Class: County class Role: Amphibious Landing Support. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Notes: Two held in reserve. Maintenance category B. Cruisers Naval Gunfire Support Cruiser IC Ship Class: xyz class IRL Ship Class: De Zeven Provinciën class (Almirante Grau) Role: Naval Gunfire Support Cruiser Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Notes: Single ship held in reserves. Maintenance category B. Saragossa Class IC Ship Class: Saragossa Class IRL Ship Class: Sejong the Great class (Does this conflict with Orioni's destroyer class? Role: Guided Missile Cruiser Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica Protosebastos Class IC Ship Class: Protosebastos Class IRL Ship Class: ??? Role: Guided Missile Cruiser Country of Origin: Tagmatium Operators: Tagmatium Destroyers Hero Class IC Ship Class: Hero class IRL Ship Class: N/A Role: Guided Missile Destroyer. Emphasis on anti surface warfare and air defense. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Destroyer Leader IC Ship Class: Uhh still naming Destroyer Leader IRL Ship Class: Bristol class/Type 82 Role: Guided Missile Destroyer Leader. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Notes: Held in reserve. Nominally maintenance category C. Admiral Class/Type 41 IC Ship Class: Admiral class/Type 41 IRL Ship Class: Hobart class Role: Guided Missile Destroyer. Emphasis on anti air and anti missile warfare. Country of Origin: Gallambria Operators: Gallambria General Luna Class IC Ship Class: General Luna class IRL Ship Class: Arleigh Burke class Role: Guided Missile Destroyer. Multirole. Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica Atifi Class IC Ship Class: Atifi class IRL Ship Class: Sejong the Great class Role: Guided Missile Destroyer. Multirole. Country of Origin: Orioni Operators: Orioni Eclipse Class IC Ship Class: Eclipse class IRL Ship Class: Daring class/Type 45 Role: Guided Missile Destroyer. Emphasis on air defense. Country of Origin: Seylos Operators: Seylos Frigates Gaellician Air Defense Frigate IC Ship Class: High end air defense frigate. Haven't come up with a name yet. IRL Ship Class: No direct IRL ship. Hull of the Absalon and Iver Huitfeldt classes of Denmark. Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Air defense. Designed in tandem with the Hero class destroyer. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia IC Ship Class: Uhh idk name yet. IRL Ship Class: 4100 Ton Air Defense/Command Frigate Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Multirole, anti air warfare specialty. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia Name IC Ship Class: Uhh idk name yet. IRL Ship Class: Karel Doorman class/M class Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Multirole, Anti submarine warfare specialty. Designed for convoy escort. Country of Origin: Gaellicia Operators: Gaellicia, Nyantastan Defender Class/Type 11 IC Ship Class: Defender class/Type 11 IRL Ship Class: Adelaide class Role: Guided Missile Frigate Country of Origin: Gallambria Operators: Gallambria Matilda Class/Type 61 IC Ship Class: Matilda class/Type 61 IRL Ship Class: ANZAC class Role: Guided Missile Frigate Country of Origin: Gallambria Operators: Gallambria TRIDENT Class IC Ship Class: TRIDENT class IRL Ship Class: Baden-Württemberg class (skin) Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Multirole/mission. Country of Origin: Gallambria, Iverica Operators: Gallambria, Iverica Verde Sea Class IC Ship Class: Verde Sea class IRL Ship Class: Sachsen class/F124 Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Multirole/mission. Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica Súbic Class IC Ship Class: Súbic class IRL Ship Class: Oliver Hazard Perry class Role: Guided Missile Frigate Country of Origin: Iverica Operators: Iverica Kebadi Class IC Ship Class: Kebadi class IRL Ship Class: Valour class/MEKO A-200NSAN Role: Guided Missile Frigate. Multirole. Country of Origin: Orioni Operators: Orioni Crossfield Class IC Ship Class: Crossfield class IRL Ship Class: Duke class/Type 23 Role: Guided Missile Frigate Country of Origin: Seylos Operators: Seylos Edited March 13, 2023 by Gaellicia (see edit history) 3
Gaellicia Posted March 11, 2023 Author Posted March 11, 2023 To start us off I'll try and sort out existing designs. I believe @Seylos uses mostly modern British designs. Definitely the IRL Type 45 Destroyer. One of my ships shares the IRL SAMPSON multifunction radar with Seylos' Eclipse class. I'm tending to use a hodgepodge of other stuff. For older ships I'm looking to use mostly British stuff like the Type 82 and County Class destroyers, and the never built CVA-01 carrier. More modern stuff I'm tending to use is Dutch, Danish, and Finnish like the M Class frigate and Niels Juel corvette. @Aurivizh You figured out your naval vessels recently though I forget a lot of them. I know we agreed that we co developed the IRL Walrus class submarine. @Ahrana I believe you're looking at a hodgepodge of designs too, though I wanna say mostly Swedish? Correct me if I'm wrong. For TRIDENT designs it seems that @Ivericauses a variety of designs. German frigates, AEGIS destroyers and cruisers. American carriers (except the IRL Charles de Gaulle). @Gallambria You use a variety of IRL British and commonwealth designs, especially Australia and New Zealand right? @Orioni Looking at wiki, looks like you use mostly modern Japanese warships? Some Korean ships too I believe? With some others as well. @Tagmatium Rules We just discussed on Discord the idea of you using mostly IRL French warships. If you still want to do that then it might work out nicely to have Adaptus use some Italian ships as IRL those two nations share a lot of naval tech. Also we talked about how you and Adaptus both use the Gerald Ford class carrier design. I don't believe anyone currently uses Chinese naval vessels nor have most Russian ships been sorted yet. I was thinking Chinese vessels might be a good fit for a villain NPC nation. Anglia? Volsci? A future villain that emerges from the ashes of the Grand War? They are very sleek and clean looking ships which to me could give them a powerful/villain quality. 2
Tagmatium Rules Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Gaellicia said: To start us off I'll try and sort out existing designs. I believe @Seylos uses mostly modern British designs. Definitely the IRL Type 45 Destroyer. One of my ships shares the IRL SAMPSON multifunction radar with Seylos' Eclipse class. I'm tending to use a hodgepodge of other stuff. For older ships I'm looking to use mostly British stuff like the Type 82 and County Class destroyers, and the never built CVA-01 carrier. More modern stuff I'm tending to use is Dutch, Danish, and Finnish like the M Class frigate and Niels Juel corvette. @Aurivizh You figured out your naval vessels recently though I forget a lot of them. I know we agreed that we co developed the IRL Walrus class submarine. @Ahrana I believe you're looking at a hodgepodge of designs too, though I wanna say mostly Swedish? Correct me if I'm wrong. For TRIDENT designs it seems that @Ivericauses a variety of designs. German frigates, AEGIS destroyers and cruisers. American carriers (except the IRL Charles de Gaulle). @Gallambria You use a variety of IRL British and commonwealth designs, especially Australia and New Zealand right? @Orioni Looking at wiki, looks like you use mostly modern Japanese warships? Some Korean ships too I believe? With some others as well. @Tagmatium Rules We just discussed on Discord the idea of you using mostly IRL French warships. If you still want to do that then it might work out nicely to have Adaptus use some Italian ships as IRL those two nations share a lot of naval tech. Also we talked about how you and Adaptus both use the Gerald Ford class carrier design. I don't believe anyone currently uses Chinese naval vessels nor have most Russian ships been sorted yet. I was thinking Chinese vessels might be a good fit for a villain NPC nation. Anglia? Volsci? A future villain that emerges from the ashes of the Grand War? They are very sleek and clean looking ships which to me could give them a powerful/villain quality. As stated on Discord, I'll probably be using French ships in the main, with the Greek missile boats to fill the holes in my roster. Along with one or two submarine types and corvettes, of which there will be several types, as much of the Tagmatine navy is built towards coastal defence and control of the close waters of the Central Europan Seas. I also need something for the Protosebastos-class guided missile cruisers and something else for the Limanion class. The latter is noted as a CVL but is probably an amphibious assault ship or helicopter carrier and I've dithered over the sort. It was to be a hybrid ship but that's probably silly. I see Gal's already got the Mistral. The Protathlites tou Khristou class (Maximus in Adapton service) aircraft carrier is represented by the Gerald R Ford class.
Gaellicia Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said: As stated on Discord, I'll probably be using French ships in the main, with the Greek missile boats to fill the holes in my roster. Along with one or two submarine types and corvettes, of which there will be several types, as much of the Tagmatine navy is built towards coastal defence and control of the close waters of the Central Europan Seas. I also need something for the Protosebastos-class guided missile cruisers and something else for the Limanion class. The latter is noted as a CVL but is probably an amphibious assault ship or helicopter carrier and I've dithered over the sort. It was to be a hybrid ship but that's probably silly. I see Gal's already got the Mistral. The Protathlites tou Khristou class (Maximus in Adapton service) aircraft carrier is represented by the Gerald R Ford class. For your CVL/Amphibious Assault Ship I could see a couple of ideas. You could use the Italian San Giorgio class. They are true landing support ships with aviation facilities only for helicopters. Or you could use Spain's Juan Carlos I class. It can do both roles. Not sure how well but it has a well deck for amphibious ops and a ski jump for STOVL flight ops (with harriers and F35Bs). Not certain but I think they can unload most of the amphibious landing craft/equipment to create extra storage space to be better at light carrier duties. IRL Australia has a version of this ship for its Canberra class ships but I think Gallambria licensed the Mistral class from Ivy so I think it's free. Lastly, you could look at the Principe de Asturias class, also from Spain. Truly a light carrier though perhaps you could use it as a skin if really dedicated to the hybrid role. For your cruiser, the first idea that comes to mind would be the Ticonderoga class. They are old though so if you're after something more modern then I'd have to think/look further. Otherwise you could use one of those old US Nuclear cruiser designs designs but again they might be too old. That said, age might only be really immediately apparent to naval nerds. Edited March 12, 2023 by Gaellicia (see edit history) 1
Tagmatium Rules Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gaellicia said: For your CVL/Amphibious Assault Ship I could see a couple of ideas. You could use the Italian San Giorgio class. They are true landing support ships with aviation facilities only for helicopters. Or you could use Spain's Juan Carlos I class. It can do both roles. Not sure how well but it has a well deck for amphibious ops and a ski jump for STOVL flight ops (with harriers and F35Bs). Not certain but I think they can unload most of the amphibious landing craft/equipment to create extra storage space to be better at light carrier duties. IRL Australia has a version of this ship for its Canberra class ships but I think Gallambria licensed the Mistral class from Ivy so I think it's free. Lastly, you could look at the Principe de Asturias class, also from Spain. Truly a light carrier though perhaps you could use it as a skin if really dedicated to the hybrid role. For your cruiser, the first idea that comes to mind would be the Ticonderoga class. They are old though so if you're after something more modern then I'd have to think/look further. Otherwise you could use one of those old US Nuclear cruiser designs designs but again they might be too old. That said, age might only be really immediately apparent to naval nerds. I was thinking of the Ticonderoga but I wasn't sure if anyone had claimed it. Age matters a bit less - I've been using a split in the names of my ship classes. Secular (such as Limanion "Port" named for the major ports of Tagmatium) ones represent ships commissioned prior to 2000 under the Rule of the Admirals and ones with religious names are ones commissioned post 2000 under the Theodosios/Kommodos regime. "Protosebastos" would be the former, and named for leading historic figures who attained that as a title for heroic or famous deeds. 1
Gaellicia Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said: I was thinking of the Ticonderoga but I wasn't sure if anyone had claimed it. Age matters a bit less - I've been using a split in the names of my ship classes. Secular (such as Limanion "Port" named for the major ports of Tagmatium) ones represent ships commissioned prior to 2000 under the Rule of the Admirals and ones with religious names are ones commissioned post 2000 under the Theodosios/Kommodos regime. Ivy used to use the Ticos but I think he changed his mind and is using the South Korean Sejong the Great class for his cruisers now. Edited March 12, 2023 by Gaellicia (see edit history) 1
Gaellicia Posted March 12, 2023 Author Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Destroyers Frigates Light Surface Combatants (Green Water) Littoral Combat Ships and Large Corvettes Corvettes Fast Attack Craft and Missile Boats Gunboats & Patrol Craft Submarines Nuclear Ballistic Missile Submarines (SSBN) Nuclear Attack Submarines (SSN) Conventional Attack Submarines Other Submarines Support Ships Oilers Underway Replenishment Salvage Icebreakers Other Edited March 12, 2023 by Gaellicia (see edit history) 1
Ahrana Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 5:17 PM, Gaellicia said: To start us off I'll try and sort out existing designs. I believe @Seylos uses mostly modern British designs. Definitely the IRL Type 45 Destroyer. One of my ships shares the IRL SAMPSON multifunction radar with Seylos' Eclipse class. I'm tending to use a hodgepodge of other stuff. For older ships I'm looking to use mostly British stuff like the Type 82 and County Class destroyers, and the never built CVA-01 carrier. More modern stuff I'm tending to use is Dutch, Danish, and Finnish like the M Class frigate and Niels Juel corvette. @Aurivizh You figured out your naval vessels recently though I forget a lot of them. I know we agreed that we co developed the IRL Walrus class submarine. @Ahrana I believe you're looking at a hodgepodge of designs too, though I wanna say mostly Swedish? Correct me if I'm wrong. For TRIDENT designs it seems that @Ivericauses a variety of designs. German frigates, AEGIS destroyers and cruisers. American carriers (except the IRL Charles de Gaulle). @Gallambria You use a variety of IRL British and commonwealth designs, especially Australia and New Zealand right? @Orioni Looking at wiki, looks like you use mostly modern Japanese warships? Some Korean ships too I believe? With some others as well. @Tagmatium Rules We just discussed on Discord the idea of you using mostly IRL French warships. If you still want to do that then it might work out nicely to have Adaptus use some Italian ships as IRL those two nations share a lot of naval tech. Also we talked about how you and Adaptus both use the Gerald Ford class carrier design. I don't believe anyone currently uses Chinese naval vessels nor have most Russian ships been sorted yet. I was thinking Chinese vessels might be a good fit for a villain NPC nation. Anglia? Volsci? A future villain that emerges from the ashes of the Grand War? They are very sleek and clean looking ships which to me could give them a powerful/villain quality. I am looking for anything Scandinavian in reality if we just have to break it down. 2
Ateenia Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 2:03 AM, Ateenia said: Ateenia uses primarily irl finnish vessels. Alright here is the list of irl ship classes I use: Finnish Hamina-class missile boat as my corvette Swedish Tapper-class patrol boat as my inner coast patrol boat Swedish Carlskrona-class offshore patrol ship Finnish Hämeenmaa-class minelayer Finnish Kuha-class minesweeper Swedish Trossbåt 600 transport ship (good luck finding an english wiki for it) Finnish G-class landing craft Finnish Uisko-class landing craft Finnish Jehu-class landing craft Finnish pollution control vessel Hylje and Finnish pollution control vessel Louhi 2
Haruspex Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Whatever's been listed forever in HIA is what I've been using as naval surface vessels, and I'm not sure what country the images came from. Submarines wise I still use and have used a hodgepodge of Russian, Indian and Chinese designs. Current is listed- SSBN: IRL - Borei class 942 Fetuf (Widow) class submarine IRL - Project 941 Akula 941 Dobruuh (Typhoon) class submarine IRL - Delta IV-class Freda Cryng (White Shark) class submarine * SSGN: IRL - Oscar II Tyng Sudran (Dark Mother) class submarine IRL - Oscar I Binevean (Purifier) class submarine * SSK: IRL - Yasen class Cyht Dekan (Sand Tiger) class submarine IRL - Akula II Felgat (Wicked) class submarine IRL - Akula I Lydvecr (Catfish) class submarine IRL - Type 039 submarine (Crehehk Cuh (Shining Son) class submarine * Prototypes IRL - Arihant-class HIN-193 & HIN-194 Unnamed classes for now Edited March 14, 2023 by Haruspex (see edit history) 3
Gaellicia Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 Gallambria was wise and kind enough to make a wiki list for all of these so that it's easier to collaborate on. It can be found here. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/User:Gallambria/Ref/List_of_Ships_Used_by_Eurth_Navies 4
Aurivizh Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) On 3/12/2023 at 12:17 AM, Gaellicia said: @Aurivizh You figured out your naval vessels recently though I forget a lot of them. I know we agreed that we co developed the IRL Walrus class submarine. I did indeed! Aurivizh uses the following ships, with the following IRL equivalents: Kêr (City) Class Frigate: German Sachsen Class Morleon (Sea Lion) Class Corvette: Danish Niels-Juel Class Poc'han (Puffin) Class Offshore Patrol Ship: Dutch Holland Class Gouelan (Seagull) Class Minehunter: French Tripartipe Class Eog (Salmon) Class Submarine: Dutch Walrus Class https://discord.com/channels/274678876242837505/453654437261606930/1072473052060860538 Edited March 16, 2023 by Aurivizh Added a link to Aurivizht ships (see edit history) 3
Kori Chi Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 Consider this for KC (and consider that it's been designed by Mito): Shinano-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp-class_amphibious_assault_ship Fusō-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke-class_destroyer Kongō-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abukuma-class_destroyer_escort Hirado-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awaji-class_minesweeper Eiji-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayabusa-class_patrol_boat Tōshi-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towada-class_replenishment_ship Eirō-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_icebreaker_Shirase_(AGB-5003) Nūrashi-class : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyashio-class_submarine 4
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