(Mapplication) Rìoghachd Aonaichte na Gaellicia

[Gaellicia]

Nation on Eurth: Gaellicia
National Flag: New Flag
Capital Name: Penzance
Capital Location: More or less centrally located where the highlands of Gael meet the lowlands and marine climate of Prettany. It’s situated where the Sil river meets Loch Carolinea.
Starter Stats:    

Population: 1 | 28 million

Land Area: 2 | Between 260,000 and 350,000 depending on where I end up on the map.

GDP: 1 | 10,000

Culture: Geltic, Indigenous Nunuvat, Potential Aroman Influences (depending on location)
Climate & Geography: The largest regions of the nation are Prettany and Gael. Prettany is a oceanic/marine climate and it is comprised of mostly rocky, with some stretches of dune/sand, coasts. Inland Prettany has rolling gentle hills and valleys that are quite fertile for agriculture. The marine climate extends to the dramatic grassy highlands of Gael.

Further up in Gael the climate becomes a humid continental climate. At least one side of Gael borders the sea. Here the coast line is very steep with many sea lochs/fjords. Gael itself contains many lochs that divide the landscape, along with a decent amount of small rivers (non navigable.) One end of the highlands begins to turn into mountains which transitions into Ilwyn. 

Ilwyn is a mostly mountainous region, with large valleys that contain most of the population. Ilwyn's mountains are by no means the largest in the wurld but they are impressive enough and contain deposits of coal and slate. Like Gael, Ilwyn's climate is a mix of marine and humid continental. One side of Ilwyn borders either the sea or another country.

The Nunuvat lands are mostly coastline above Gael and Ilwyn and a variety of mostly small islands. The climate could be subartic and tundra, or it could be humid continental.

There is a large natural deep water port on Prettany's coast in a large bay called Cath Bay. The port is called Cathures. Gaellicia has three major rivers. The Sil river connects the city and Cath Bay to Loch Carolinea and Penzance. The Sil, above Loch Carolinea, is not navigable by large vessels and water craft because it rapidly changes in elevation. The Cumberland River meets the Sil River where it connects with Cath Bay. The final river, the Bryn flows through the center of Ilwyn.

History: Gaellicia is a union of four countries. Gael and Prettany united sometime in the 12 or 1300s. Ilwyn was conquered in the late 1600s and was considered a part of the Gael region until it asserted its own self determination over the 19th and 20th centuries. The Indigenous held lands had been independent until greater interaction began in the 1700s, with their incorporation into the nation in 1833.

Depending where I end up located, the land Gaellicia is now on could have been occuped by the Aroman Empire at one point. My history could potentially involve @Tagmatium Rules and will most likely involve @Gotneska@Seylos@Ebrary as they are also nations with Geltic histories or influences. Gotneska is also home to Nunuvat so the indigenous people in my land likely originate from there.
Front Desk:

Vision Statement:

Desired Location: The northern part of the island off of Tagmatium and the three smaller islands near it.
Other Critical Information: I see my country as having once been a naval power, so lots of water or coastline is preferred.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Legnut (see edit history)

[Xio]

Congratulations on passing the academy, now for the home stretch: getting you on the map!

Stats
Your stats appear to be good; the flexibility of your land area has been noted.

Culture / Climate / History
Regarding your climate, with your descriptions your country would fit best within the coloured region:

Combined with your cultures (Geltic & Nunavut) and history, your nation is very likely to be somewhere in eastern Argis with other Geltic and Nunavut states. Of course, it's entirely possible your nation can exist elsewhere in the wurld but you would have to change your indigenous population (unless you're an ex-colony of, say, Gotneska who has had both groups historically). With my proposed locations for your country, I will also include a bit on potential indigenous groups if you don't want to be in eastern Argis and prefer to be an ex-colony.

Below I have proposed 4 locations for your country. Once you've chosen one (or none) of the proposed locations, I will request consent from your would-be neighbours, and afterwards we can tweak borders and add your cities in Discord .

1. Eastern Argis A

Coming in at 322,400km^2 this is probably the best spot for your nation's current culture and history, though at a sacrifice to climate. Your nation will replace the (controversial) Ulfheimr, who in current NPC form will likely be deleted in the coming days anyways due to no longer qualifying for NPC status. You will be beside Gotneska (a Celtic/Nordic nation) and Nanaviit (a Nunavut nation). Your coastline would be predominantly temperate, however your interior and north will be a mix of Siberian/Boreal forests and steppe.

2. Eastern Argis B

Similarly size to proposal 1 at 310,900km^2. Your cultures can remain as Celtic/Nunavut here as well, but with an added bonus of being beside another Aroman-influence nation (Ebrary) allowing for you to take elements of the Aroman you like with easy justification of history interactions. The biggest downside is your climate would be very brutal. You would have a thin slither of temperate climate in your southern coast and river, but much of your coastline would be frozen for much of the year with likely permafrost along your north-west territories.

3. Desired Location

At 269,300km^2, your climate would fit perfectly to what you describe, with your eastern most island possessing a more Siberian/Boreal climate. Your location works well for both possibly being an ex-colony of a Celtic state (you would have to coordinate with both Tagmatium on his history and your chosen Celtic colonial master to do this) or having been part of the waves of migrants of Germanic and Celtic groups that originally created nations like Deltannia, Haruspex, Anglia, etc. For your indigenous peoples, you could perhaps go for some Greek or Romance inspired groups or Turkic similarly to Fubukinotochi and Volsci.

4. Marenesia Major

A rather oddball choice, at 303,900km^2 you would certainly have to be an ex-colony of a Celtic state for this to be achievable, but your climate would be perfect with a large oceanic climate and temperate interior. Both lowlands and highlands, and many rivers. Probably the best choice climate-wise though the most tenuous culture-wise. Your indigenous groups would Austronesian in origin, with Māori being a sound choice.

[Gaellicia]

Thank you Xio for the speedy and varied options. Now comes the hard part of choosing one.

As I think it over, option 3 is going to need a lot of tweaks to my national history. I don’t necessarily object, it’s just something I’ll have to be aware of. 
 

An idea @Gotneska had in relation to option 3 was that the large island East of Tagmatium could be the original homeland of Geltic peoples. The question then is what do you think of that idea @Aurivizh @Ebrary Gotneska, and @Seylos? Also would it conflict with your history @Tagmatium Rules? I would also be ok with Gaellicia being Geltic due to immigration, I just thought the origins idea was neat and explains my population size somewhat. 
 

Speaking of Tagmatium, I envision my nation having once been a naval power particularly in the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century. Would that conflict with Tagmatium history?
 

Option 4 is rather intriguing. It’ll require a change up of the vibe of my history but I’m open to it. It just needs the right nation to be Gaellicia’s former master. 
 

Option 1 seems like it needs the least changes. I can always fall back on it if I have to change too many things to fit in elsewhere.

 

 

[Xio]

11 minutes ago, Legnut said:

Thank you Xio for the speedy and varied options. Now comes the hard part of choosing one.

As I think it over, option 3 is going to need a lot of tweaks to my national history. I don’t necessarily object, it’s just something I’ll have to be aware of. 
 

An idea @Gotneska had in relation to option 3 was that the large island East of Tagmatium could be the original homeland of Geltic peoples. The question then is what do you think of that idea @Aurivizh @Ebrary Gotneska, and @Seylos? Also would it conflict with your history @Tagmatium Rules? I would also be ok with Gaellicia being Geltic due to immigration, I just thought the origins idea was neat and explains my population size somewhat. 
 

Speaking of Tagmatium, I envision my nation having once been a naval power particularly in the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century. Would that conflict with Tagmatium history?
 

Option 4 is rather intriguing. It’ll require a change up of the vibe of my history but I’m open to it. It just needs the right nation to be Gaellicia’s former master. 
 

Option 1 seems like it needs the least changes. I can always fall back on it if I have to change too many things to fit in elsewhere.

 

 

I'm going to put a hard no on putting the Geltic homeland in Europa, both for IC and OOC reasons.

IC it just doesn't line up with current histories of other nations (such as the existence of the Aroman Empire and the ancient/pre-modern histories of all the Geltic and Geltic-adjacent nations) and would require serious reworking of a major part of the Argis continent's established lore just for a new member who we don't even know will stay after a year or so. OOC-wise Europa is already spread thin with so many ethnic groups calling it home that it really does not need another one, and I very much doubt Europa will ever see enough Celtic inspired nations to justify such a proposition, especially with current member caps and already so many active member Celtic nations probably warranting its own cap similar to the Germanic states.

[Tagmatium Rules]

I apologise for my lack of any reply - as per this post, I'm on holiday and therefore out of the country until Tuesday 1st of November. I'm not against Tagmatium having a new neighbour but need to sort through a few things to give myself an idea of what may need tweaking and changes that need to be done.

[Tagmatium Rules]

Further to my above post, after discussing things with Gaellicia (@Legnut), I can see no reason for me to be against the proposed location in Europa, if that is still wanted. I don't think it's fair for me to ask anyone to wait any longer on this, especially since it really does help to get an idea of where one is going to be placed to work on any national lore.

I feel confident that we can work together to iron out any wrinkles that a new nation plopping down into an area that has established lore already might cause. I hope that it will provide interesting opportunities for RP in the future for the pair of us.

So, I'm cool with it, so long as Gaellicia is and the Cartographers (@Xio/ @Orioni) are happy with that placement.

[Gaellicia]

Hello folks! After talks with Tagmatium I think I’ve found that we would be good neighbors/collaborators (in an out of character sense, in character our nations may not always get along so well haha) and so I would like to choose option 3 for my map spot. I would like to thank everyone for their patience and cooperation as I’m learning the ropes around here! I’m so excited to contribute to this big wunderful wurld! 

[Orioni]

My only comment on this would be that you try and work with or within the local lore.

• Aroman Empire during the classical era
• Medieval Thelarike
• Buranian influences where relevant
• Isolationist Volsci in modern times

Most of this is described in the wiki.

 Good luck and welcome to the neighbourhood.

[Tagmatium Rules]

2 hours ago, Orioni said:

My only comment on this would be that you try and work with or within the local lore.

• Aroman Empire during the classical era
• Medieval Thelarike
• Buranian influences where relevant
• Isolationist Volsci in modern times

Most of this is described in the wiki.

 Good luck and welcome to the neighbourhood.

Don't worry, O, I'll make sure everything will fit together

[Gaellicia]

Hey there all! Just posting here to announce that I've updated my flag. Hopefully I can get it in before the map update.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Legnut (see edit history)