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Guide to Diplomacy, War, and Nuclear Weapons


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(The following was originally posted by Automagfreek.)



Diplomacy is defined as:

  1. The art or practice of conducting international relations, as in negotiating alliances, treaties, and agreements.
  2. Tact and skill in dealing with people


1 Well, what do you mean?

Diplomacy is dealing with people, plain and simple. Examples of diplomacy would be discussing alliances, compromising with nations, basically political discussions. Diplomacy is also an effective substitute for war. You can talk your way out of just about any situation, you just need to know how to do it properly. Political pressure on top of great reasoning and speaking skills can put a cap on even the most volatile situation, you just need to be willing to do so.

2 Why Diplomacy?

If you choose the pen over the sword, expect the following things to happen:

  • Nations will have more respect for you.
  • You avert a conflict that could lead to the death of thousands
  • You make yourself look more professional, and not some war hungry fool
  • Nations will be more willing to help you out if indeed you do get into a conflict.

3 When do I use Diplomacy?

When do you use diplomacy? All the time! Most of what you do on NS is diplomacy. But all too often, diplomacy goes right out the window.

Here's an example of what not to do:

  • Nation A: I just purchased 1,000 nukes, what are you going to do about it?
  • Nation B: I declare war on nation A for buying such weapons!

 Here's what should have happened.

  • Nation A: I just purchased 1,000 nukes, what are you going to do about it?
  • Nation B: Nothing, but we request that these weapons not be carelessly used. It is in the best interests of the world that weapons of this nature not be heedlessly tossed around. Thank you.

Do you see the difference?

You get the point across without having to ship your troops out. Using the second example, nation A won't feel as if he's being backed into a corner, or forced to use such weapons. Again, diplomacy solves another problem.

4 When Diplomacy Breaks Down

Face it, at some point, talk goes right out the window. BUT, that does not mean that diplomatic solutions cannot still be sought. A nation facing invasion may want to keep diplomatic options open. It is never too late for diplomacy, remember that. If things do break down and degenerate into war, refer to this thread for more advice. Everything about War 👇


    GUIDE to WAR


    We all know this is reason #1 for being on NationStates, admit it.

    War can be hours of fun: a conflict between two nations, trading blows, taking their losses, and one nation triumphing over another, with the victor getting the spoils and the bragging rights.

    But....sadly, that's not what you see here nowadays. What you see it this:

    • Nation A: Steel for sale! High-quality steel for sale, and cheap!
    • Nation B: I declare war on you. I want your steel.
    • Nation A: WHAT?!?!?!? You've got to be kidding me...
    • Nation C : Nation B has the support of the ABCDE Alliance, and all 317 members.
    • Nation A: This sucks, you're all wankers!
    • {insert flame war here}

    That is the extent of war here on NS.

    👇 Here are the main reasons for why you'd want to go to war in the first place.


    1 Good Reasons for War

    1. Attack on your nation/territory

    Naturally, if somebody launches an invasion of your nation, by all means, go at it. If somebody launches a missile at you (for example), you may want to use diplomatic options first. Diplomatic pressure can solve almost any situation if you put real effort into it.


    2. Attack on an ally

    This is cause #1 for war on NS. Because of vast friendships on NS, war, for this reason, is very common. As an ally of a nation, you may feel obligated to defend them, and that is understandable. But you do not need to make all of your allies business your business. You have a nation to run as well, you can't always rush off to protect your 4 dozen allies (or however many you have). But that's not to say you can't aid your allies. Sending weapons, ammo, money, equipment can be just as effective as sending your own soldiers. Perfect example: in WW2, the US knew Brittain and France were being threatened by Germany, but they refrained from just hopping in, until they were provoked into action. But before then, they sent aid to their allies. (DO NOT DISCUSS WW2 IN THIS THREAD, THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE)


    3. Regional invasions

    I've never had first-hand experience with regional politics, so if anybody wants to contribute to this reason, feel free.


    4. Human rights violations

    The Amerigo Slave War is a textbook example of this reason. BUT, however, you don't need to attack somebody simply because their civil rights aren't as high as yours. Mass genocide, brutal enslavement, and other such things are grounds for war, but AFTER diplomacy has run its course.


    5. WMD possession

    This reason is slightly exaggerated. A nation has the right to possess WMD and use it when necessary. BUT, if they go around gassing neighbour nations for giggles, then there may be a problem (but again, DIPLOMACY FIRST). Simply possessing WMD is not sufficient grounds for war, but abuse may be, each situation is unique.


    2 Bad Reasons for War


    1. He insulted me

    So what? If you rush off to war for this reason, you need to grow a thicker skin. As absurd as it seems, I've seen war erupt for this reason. Insults happen, don't take it personally. Remember "sticks and stones"?


    2. I want his land

    Being imperialistic is generally frowned upon. Unless justified and well RPed, simply "wanting" somebody else's territory will generally land you in the Smackdown Hotel. Imperialism may also be viewed as warmongering.

    Warmongering: One who advocates or attempts to stir up war.


    3. My ally is going to war

    Good for him, but unless it directly involves you, don't. Remember, you have a nation to look after as well, you can't constantly bend to the will of an ally. His reasons for war may be legit, but that doesn't mean you need to butt in and dogpile some nation he's fighting against.


    4. I feel like it because I'm bored

    Again, generally considered idiotic, and warmongering. UNLESS of course, it's a couple of friends RPing out a conflict for fun, in which case, you shouldn't interfere.


    5. I want to rule teh world!!!1111Shift+1

    For one thing, you can't. NationStates has over 70,000 nations. Do you think your military, even your ENTIRE population for that matter, can conquer that many people? Also, you can't declare war on the forum or the UN, sorry.


    6. He said my mum was fat

    NEVER, EVER DECLARE WAR FOR OOC (out of character) REASONS!!! I don't care if your friend was being a jerk at school, that's not a good reason to declare war, forget about it.


    3 Options in place of War

    Instead of rushing off to battle like some trigger-happy cowboy, try the following:

    1. Diplomacy: The art or practice of conducting international relations, as in negotiating alliances, treaties, and agreements... Tact and skill in dealing with people.
    2. Compromise: (I'll back down if you will)
    3. Sanctions: Authoritative permission or approval that makes a course of action valid (If you launch another nuke, there will be problems)
    4. Compliance: (Alright, I'll cut back on my VX, just don't attack me)
    5. The threat of force: (Look, if you invade, the ABCDE Alliance will step in. ) The threat of force has averted many a war, I should know because I too use this tactic.
    6. Sever all ties with the nation (You know what, I'm not trading nor interacting with your nation again. Good Day.)


    4 Alliances

    Alliances are all well and fine, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. Every single day, more alliances spring up, most are for war-related purposes. Having alliances is fine, but DO NOT use that as an excuse to push around others that are not as large as you. Doing so will make your alliance look like a schoolyard bully, instigating any conflict they can. This is not a good way to make a respectable name for yourselves.

    Alliances are fine, BUT do not use that alliance to

    1. Butt into affairs that don't concern you
    2. Instigate wars simply because you have a few dozen powerful nations in it
    3. Force your will upon others, because that always leads to conflict.


    5 Ongoing Conflicts

    If two nations are at war, and they are RPing it well, LEAVE IT ALONE. Don't muscle your way into it because you want to join in the fun. It's their RP, don't ruin it. Most people fail to realise the RP value that exists in war. Those old enough to remember the Amerigo War, the AMF civil war, etc. know that through war, great RP can come. DON'T TAKE A GOOD WAR RP AND RUIN IT.


    6 Consequences of War

    War can have serious consequences, which is generally ignored on NS. Every time you ship out, you make yourself more vulnerable to attack. If you fight frequently, your troops are going to get tired, and disgruntled. If your economy is bad, it's probably going to get worse, likewise if it is good. Your industry is going to suffer, seeing as during wartime, production shifts to war-related items, IE guns, tanks, etc. Face it, setbacks do happen. I don't care if you're the most powerful nation around if you ship out once a day, your nation is going down the gutter.

    War also affects your performance. Fighting a nation that's larger, better equipped, more experienced, etc, may affect your troops' morale. Also, remember that defenders tend to fight harder, for it is their homes they are fighting for. Also, remember that supplies are critical. You don't honestly, think your tanks can drive without gas? Can your troops shoot without ammo? Can your trucks drive with no tires? A LOT of people forget about these things, but you need to remember that supplies are critical, and if your supply lines are attacked, then your troops will be in trouble.

    Also, war can have diplomatic consequences as well. Some nations may frown upon your for frequently choosing the sword over the pen. Expect this to happen if you go off to war frequently.


    7 How to go to War

    For you new nations, you may be asking this question. The best advice I can give is to read The Role-Playing FAQ. It goes into great detail about how to RP war.

    Also, you may want to read FYI: What GOD-MODDING is. You need to understand what god-modding is, and how you can avoid it.

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    (The following was originally posted by Automagfreek.)



    Due to general ignorance about these feared and extremely deadly weapons, I am going to inform you of just what happens when a nuclear device explodes.


    1 Consequences

    🌬️ Blast

    Most damage to cities from large weapons comes from the explosive blast. The blast drives away air from the site of the explosion, producing sudden changes in air pressure (called static overpressure) that can crush objects, and high winds (called dynamic pressure) that can move them suddenly or knock them down. In general, large buildings are destroyed by the overpressure, while people and objects such as trees and utility poles are destroyed by the wind.

    ☢️ Direct Nuclear Radiation

    Nuclear weapons inflict ionising radiation on people, animals, and plants in two different ways. Direct radiation occurs at the time of the explosion; it can be very intense, but its range is limited. Fallout radiation is received from particles that are made radioactive by the effects of the explosion and subsequently distributed at varying distances from the site of the blast. Fallout is discussed in a subsequent section. For large nuclear weapons, the range of intense direct radiation is less than the range of lethal blast and thermal radiation effects. However, in the case of smaller weapons, direct radiation may be the lethal effect with the greatest range. Direct radiation did substantial damage to the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    🔥 Thermal Radiation

    Approximately 35% of the energy from a nuclear explosion is an intense burst of thermal radiation, i.e., heat. The effects are roughly analogous to the effect of a 2-second flash from an enormous sunlamp. Since the thermal radiation travels at the speed of light (actually a bit slower, since it is deflected by particles in the atmosphere), the flash of light and heat precedes the blast wave by several seconds, just as lightning is seen before the thunder is heard.

     Electromagnetic Pulse

    An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is an electromagnetic wave similar to radio waves, which results from secondary reactions occurring when the nuclear gamma radiation is absorbed in the air or ground. It differs from the usual radio waves in two important ways. First, it creates much higher electric field strengths. Whereas a radio signal might produce a thousandth of a volt or less in a receiving antenna, an EMP pulse might produce thousands of volts. Secondly, it is a single pulse of energy that disappears completely in a small fraction of a second. In this sense, it is rather similar to the electrical signal from lightning, but the rise in voltage is typically a hundred times faster. This means that most equipment designed to protect electrical facilities from lightning works too slowly to be effective against EMP.

    🌧️ Fallout

    While any nuclear explosion in the atmosphere produces some fallout, the fallout is far greater if the burst is on the surface, or at least low enough for the fireball to touch the ground. The fallout from air bursts alone poses long-term health hazards, but they are trivial compared to the other consequences of a nuclear attack. The significant hazards come from particles scooped up from the ground and irradiated by the nuclear explosion.


    2 Nuclear Blast Radius

    This is what would happen if a nuke exploded in a city. PSI stands for: pounds per square inch.

    Nuclear Blast Radius

    PSI Blast radius Dead Impact

    2,75 kilometres

    (1.7 miles)

    100% At the centre of the ring lies a crater 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter. The rim of this crater is 1,000 feet wide and is composed of highly radioactive soil and debris. Nothing recognisable remains within about 3,200 feet (0.6 miles) from the centre.

    4,35 kilometres

    (2.7 miles)

    100% Virtually everything is destroyed between the 12 and 5 psi rings. The walls of typical multi-story buildings, including apartment buildings, have been completely blown out & the owners ask for a rent raise anyway.

    7,5 kilometres

    (4.7 miles)

    90% Any single-family residences that have not been completely destroyed are heavily damaged. The windows of office buildings have been blown away, as have some of their walls. Everything on these buildings' upper floors, including the people who were working there, are thrown onto the streets.

    12 kilometres

    (7.4 miles)

    65% Residences are moderately damaged. Commercial buildings have sustained minimal damage. 25% of the population between the 2 and 1 psi rings have been injured, mainly by flying concrete, debris & sewage.


    3 Long-term impact

    As you see, this is just the effects of 1 nuclear bomb going off. Now, try to imagine a few thousand going off. The world would be screwed if some of the "thousand nukes" launches really happen.

    The environment will change, and with a large number of particles thrown into the air, life as we know it would be endangered.  Also, if you think that detonating these many weapons won't affect those that are innocent, think again. Jet streams can blow radioactive particles into other nations, who may not have been involved.


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