Struma Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) Hello, I would like to canonise the Unduk lakes (pictured below) and a visible widening of the strait conecting them to the Canamo sea (@Prymont has said in the discord that they aren't opposed to this) The Unduk lakes (could you meassure them please) : The strait mentioned with a suggestion from me, also if you're able to slightly widen the strait neer the port of Ysta in Mokhavia that would be apriciated: Edited May 26, 2021 by Mokhavia (see edit history) 2 Link to comment
Orioni Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hello @Mokhavia. Right now all these lakes are already connected. Right now these are fresh-water lakes flowing out into the lower sea. I understand you want to widen the existing connections by a few pixels. Could you take some time to explain why exactly? 1 Link to comment
Struma Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Orioni said: Hello @Mokhavia. Right now all these lakes are already connected. Right now these are fresh-water lakes flowing out into the lower sea. I understand you want to widen the existing connections by a few pixels. Could you take some time to explain why exactly? hello, so originally i was under the impression that these were actually inland seas with a strait conecting (controlled by prymont) to the canamo sea, but then when i was looking deeping into it i found out they are freshwater lakes which was problematic as i am rying to build a more ocean conected salt water biosphere and culture*, mainly the animal life present that would effect culture too, you can see in my wiki page, i have a list of more renouned species found in the nation (still working on the logistics of some of them), even if they were made into salt water lakes it would still be problematic for species of marine life that wouldnt be found there naturally. The carthographer (Metztlitlaca) and i also talked a bit about it in discord and they have put out a new version with them being inland seas conected to the Canamo sea. 2 Link to comment
Ahrana Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I see no issue so as long as descriptive and explanatory reason can be given to the why question. Also from what i am reading between the lines here is that this is another way from this nation to get some access to the sea, which he has tried one time to my knowledge to do so. So I am presented with one question for you @Mokhavia , If this access or this expansion of the inland river (currently) is converted into a strait how would this benefit your country? Also, would there be any downside to this? In my opinion I would suggest it to stay a Fresh Water domain, for instance say there is a water shortage in your country and these lakes would provide a huge amount of source of Fresh Water that could be filtered and rationally dispensed across the nation., It would cost less to filter fresh water than it would say salt water. Plus look at it in another view, you could start up a Bottle Water Company that could become a global producer of filtered bottle water which in my mind would be a need. Overall, if the Admin Team approves of the idea to widen the river to a strait then I am for this as it would be interesting to see how it influences the country and ecosystem. 2 Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Could it not have been a navigable river in the first place? Does that necessitate the change to a strait on the map? I've always assumed that the river that marks the border between MH and me is navigable up fairly far. Link to comment
Struma Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 23 hours ago, Ahrana said: I see no issue so as long as descriptive and explanatory reason can be given to the why question. Also from what i am reading between the lines here is that this is another way from this nation to get some access to the sea, which he has tried one time to my knowledge to do so. So I am presented with one question for you @Mokhavia , If this access or this expansion of the inland river (currently) is converted into a strait how would this benefit your country? Also, would there be any downside to this? In my opinion I would suggest it to stay a Fresh Water domain, for instance say there is a water shortage in your country and these lakes would provide a huge amount of source of Fresh Water that could be filtered and rationally dispensed across the nation., It would cost less to filter fresh water than it would say salt water. Plus look at it in another view, you could start up a Bottle Water Company that could become a global producer of filtered bottle water which in my mind would be a need. Overall, if the Admin Team approves of the idea to widen the river to a strait then I am for this as it would be interesting to see how it influences the country and ecosystem. No real benefits to my nation except the fauna ill receave (for example someone suggested me having beluga whales which could of been a food for my ppl, im still looking in the logistics of fauna migration but ive embrased that idea), the downsaids are the water stuffs you mentioned no longer being options, but im not tryna do this for any real benefit, but as ive said before for the biological pluses to the nation and culture. Before this, i tought that there was a strait which turns out to have actually been a river, so eh. 1 Link to comment
Struma Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 20 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said: Could it not have been a navigable river in the first place? Does that necessitate the change to a strait on the map? I've always assumed that the river that marks the border between MH and me is navigable up fairly far. it would of been, but im doing this for the biological factor (i just talked about this to ahrana so you could check that message instead of me repeating myself) 1 Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Mokhavia said: it would of been, but im doing this for the biological factor (i just talked about this to ahrana so you could check that message instead of me repeating myself) I mean, it doesn't especially matter and I've no reason to stick my oar in. It could well be a mile or so wide and still be just be represented as it is on the map. Link to comment
Struma Posted June 5, 2021 Author Share Posted June 5, 2021 @Metztlitlaca @Tagmatium Rules @Ahrana ok so, im fine with the river/strait remaning like that on the map, but i would like the lakes to become inland seas for the reasons ive mentioned (i.e. biology and culture) the strait being enlargened to vissibility on the map would rly only help with species traveling through it, which is why i asked for it, just to be a bit more realistic 1 Link to comment
Ahrana Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I am fine with the lakes becoming in-land seas, but the river should stay the same it can be assumed that it is in fact a strait instead of actually making the map reflect that. When you look at the canals that have been built and some that are in process they resemble a river but is labeled and assumed as a canal to which in my mind we can just assume that here. Or if you desire we can call it whatever name you wish to call it and add the word strait to it. 3 Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 2:10 PM, Mokhavia said: @Metztlitlaca @Tagmatium Rules @Ahrana ok so, im fine with the river/strait remaning like that on the map, but i would like the lakes to become inland seas for the reasons ive mentioned (i.e. biology and culture) the strait being enlargened to vissibility on the map would rly only help with species traveling through it, which is why i asked for it, just to be a bit more realistic I apologise for my slow reply. As I said above, I've no real reason to stick my oar in. I was just wondering whether a solution could be found without changing the map at all. Link to comment
Struma Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said: I apologise for my slow reply. As I said above, I've no real reason to stick my oar. I was just wondering whether a solution could be found without changing the map at all. i mean, it'd still need to be changed to sea instead of lake, so not really, plus the carthographer already made a draft with a visible strait so might as well use it, if the neighbors are cool with it 1 Link to comment
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