Request: Mokhavia

[Struma]

Nation in eurth/NS: Mokhavia

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Capital name: Moshkal
Capital location: On the thightest area of the lakes (see bellow).
Factbook link: https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Mokhavia
Newsroom link:

 

Culture: Mokhavic (based off of various Uralic, Turkic, Tungusic and Paleo-Siberian cultures)

Climate: Subarctic/Boreal

Location:

I've added two more rivers, if its possible for them to be added on the map that would be great

I've also included cities, if they are too many, and also for discussion please DM me on discord at Paprkia#0196 / Mokhavia on the Eurth server (or ig just here on the thread...)

Note  for less confusion: Ateenia is my northern neighbor, the country is Mokhavia

Also if possible to imitate my drawn borer as much as posible.

 

Statistics: Population - 0 ; GDP - 1 ; Land area - 2* (posible expansion with an exclave neer ahrana in the future)

 

PS: Is there a way a break away state can be displayed on the map? becouse there is one in the nation (mentioned in the rp post) that i would like to add.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Mokhavia (see edit history)

[Xio]

Hello!

Culture & Climate
As we spoke about in the Discord, your conculture can pretty much go anywhere even if your inspirations for the constructed culture are elsewhere on the map - as long as the similarities are not just CTRL-C CTRL-V. Climate also appears to be correct for what you want.

Geography & Cities
Adding rivers and the cities / ports are no problem :).

Statistics
With a population of zero, your starting population cannot be any larger than 10 million.  GDP with one point would be 6,000 - 15,000 GDP per capita. If your GDP per capita is below $12,500 you would be classified as a Middle Income Country.
I went ahead and calculated your land area at over 124,000 km^2, which would put you in the one point region (91,000 - 260,000 km^2).



Break Away State
Generally NPCs that just border you are not shown unless the member has been around for a while. If the NPC borders multiple members you need the explicit permission from all neighbouring members for it to be added. Could you please provide more details of this break away state to me? Either here or in Discord.

[Prymont]

I'll throw in my two cents:

Based on this edit posted by @Mokhavia on the Discord...

... then I'd be ok with the breakaway state since it doesn't interfere too much with my future expansion plans. Ultimately it does depend on @Ahrana due to the connecting borders.

[Ahrana]

After careful consideration and thought I’ve come to a decision about the request from @Mokhaviaabiut having a Kalingrad style enclave situation. In the past I would have supported this idea, however through the past RPs with some people who are no longer and here and such I’ve come to a decision that would put me on the fence about having such a enclave or exclave in that area. I am going to decline the idea but ultimately if a enclave or exclave gets placed there I will not cause a riot it’ll just be unfortunate and uncomfortable for me. 
 

So my answer is going to be to decline the idea. 
 

**also in addition the RP I had planned for that area is changing so hence to my declining the enclave or exclave

Edited April 25, 2021 by Ahrana (see edit history)

[Struma]

3 hours ago, Prymont said:

I'll throw in my two cents:

Based on this edit posted by @Mokhavia on the Discord...

... then I'd be ok with the breakaway state since it doesn't interfere too much with my future expansion plans. Ultimately it does depend on @Ahrana due to the connecting borders.

The break away state isnt that exclave but an area in the hearthland

[Struma]

14 minutes ago, Ahrana said:

After careful consideration and thought I’ve come to a decision about the request from @Mokhaviaabiut having a Kalingrad style enclave situation. In the past I would have supported this idea, however through the past RPs with some people who are no longer and here and such I’ve come to a decision that would put me on the fence about having such a enclave or exclave in that area. I am going to decline the idea but ultimately if a enclave or exclave gets placed there I will not cause a riot it’ll just be unfortunate and uncomfortable for me. 
 

So my answer is going to be to decline the idea. 
 

**also in addition the RP I had planned for that area is changing so hence to my declining the enclave or exclave

alright, thats not a problem.

[Struma]

On 4/25/2021 at 5:42 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

Hello!

Culture & Climate
As we spoke about in the Discord, your conculture can pretty much go anywhere even if your inspirations for the constructed culture are elsewhere on the map - as long as the similarities are not just CTRL-C CTRL-V. Climate also appears to be correct for what you want.

Geography & Cities
Adding rivers and the cities / ports are no problem :).

Statistics
With a population of zero, your starting population cannot be any larger than 10 million.  GDP with one point would be 6,000 - 15,000 GDP per capita. If your GDP per capita is below $12,500 you would be classified as a Middle Income Country.
I went ahead and calculated your land area at over 124,000 km^2, which would put you in the one point region (91,000 - 260,000 km^2).



Break Away State
Generally NPCs that just border you are not shown unless the member has been around for a while. If the NPC borders multiple members you need the explicit permission from all neighbouring members for it to be added. Could you please provide more details of this break away state to me? Either here or in Discord.

hey do you think you could make some of those rivers that start within my nation?

i didnt think about how vulnerable i would become if a nation goes above me 😳

[Tagmatium Rules]

6 minutes ago, Mokhavia said:

hey do you think you could make some of those rivers that start within my nation?

i didnt think about how vulnerable i would become if a nation goes above me 😳

Just try to be mates with them

[Struma]

3 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

Just try to be mates with them

even if i am mates with 'em im still gonna be under them strategically :/

as my nation has and still does relly a lot on the rivers, id prefer if not all of my major rivers were in the hands of potential enemy

[Ateenia]

16 hours ago, Mokhavia said:

even if i am mates with 'em im still gonna be under them strategically 😕

as my nation has and still does relly a lot on the rivers, id prefer if not all of my major rivers were in the hands of potential enemy

dont worry, i'll expand there one day and make you dependent on me 😈

[Xio]

21 hours ago, Mokhavia said:

hey do you think you could make some of those rivers that start within my nation?

i didnt think about how vulnerable i would become if a nation goes above me 😳

Frame Challenge: What is wrong about that?
Having such vulnerabilities is what makes a nation more realistic and allows for you to RP seamlessly with any new northern neighbour (or with Ateenia if he expands south with your permission) as part of negotiations of rivers.
If you are adamant about your new rivers being entirely within your borders I will change it, but it's something to consider for the future.

[Struma]

20 hours ago, Metztlitlaca said:

Frame Challenge: What is wrong about that?
Having such vulnerabilities is what makes a nation more realistic and allows for you to RP seamlessly with any new northern neighbour (or with Ateenia if he expands south with your permission) as part of negotiations of rivers.
If you are adamant about your new rivers being entirely within your borders I will change it, but it's something to consider for the future.

yeah which is why i wanted only some of the rivers to be inside of me, so im still more realistic but am not this volnarable. But eh we can see about that in the future, for now im just gonna leave it be cuz the rivers look better when they are longer lel