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Just now, Orioni said:

Thank you both for your clear explanations. My intentions don't include any surprise little green men appearing in the Occident. But the situation would be serious enough to draw attention. I'll go ahead and write up something that involves the EOS. A local security concern like this merits some special attention.

Further to that, Tagmatium has stated that any move by GA or allied entities against Adaptus, Sporsia or Euandria will be considered an act of war, as they're "Aroman" nations.

To an extent, that's bluster - as outlined above, a significant proportion of the Tagmatine military is tied up doing other things and can pretty much be discouted by GA as a threat. But, equally, enough of it isn't and that'd likely upset immediate GA plans.

I plan to have Kommodos call a meeting of foreign ministers of the "Aroman" nations. But Sporsia is a nation rocked by repeated recent scandals and is headed by a caretaker government under the head of the church and Euandria is a Qubdi satellite. I'm discussing the potential implications of the latter with @Seylos at the moment.

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Hey everyone, so the staff have been discussing this for bit and I want to bring it to the greater community for comment. We've been wanting to help everyone become engaged in a single global eve

The way I see it, the Greater Holy Empire has three options in how to react the the crisis as it develops. Option 1: React to the growing crisis with hostility. As Anglia carves out parts of weste

I would be ok to have Anglian invasions happen in or near Westzeeland. My military is ok but it will no chance of surviving.

2 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

I think our governments need to discuss a unified response.

Especially since the Haru have been so decent as to guarantee Tagmatium's borders.

For sure, Seylos has no idea what the Haru are doing. As far as they know they are building for a fight with Tagmatium and possibly the NAU

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8 hours ago, Seylos said:

For sure, Seylos has no idea what the Haru are doing. As far as they know they are building for a fight with Tagmatium and possibly the NAU

Equally, Tagmatium doesn't know what they're doing :P

Which is why I need to have my country reach out and ask the Haru what the hell they're doing. They're probably causing Tagmatium to panic, especially as I've said I'm moving troops from the north to bolster my southern borders.

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Just an idea: could we create some crosslinks between the branches of this storyline? Right now I find myself reading one news story and several foreign affairs channels, which reference each other but don't always include links. With your collective permission I can add some links where needed.

On 4/10/2021 at 2:43 AM, Seylos said:

Through unofficial interviews the ENN has learned that the Social Democratic Confederation has already enacted contingency measures to ensure the continuity of government, with rumors that they may potentially be heading to Seylos, which has historically not had a pleasant relationship with its progenitor.

Also, while re-reading the ENN post on Anglia, I noticed the but in bold. Many times we've had this discussion on the origin story of !Anglo-Saxon countries. It was my impression that we had settled on this being the long island east of Tagmatium.

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1 hour ago, Orioni said:

Just an idea: could we create some crosslinks between the branches of this storyline? Right now I find myself reading one news story and several foreign affairs channels, which reference each other but don't always include links. With your collective permission I can add some links where needed.

Also, while re-reading the ENN post on Anglia, I noticed the but in bold. Many times we've had this discussion on the origin story of !Anglo-Saxon countries. It was my impression that we had settled on this being the long island east of Tagmatium.

Very true! And I think it would just be best for Anglia to be it. It's definitely not the best solution but I've written some history that includes early Celtic invasions to Anglia. Early Anglians weren't exactly the same people as today post Aroman collapse.

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8 hours ago, Seylos said:

Very true! And I think it would just be best for Anglia to be it. It's definitely not the best solution but I've written some history that includes early Celtic invasions to Anglia. Early Anglians weren't exactly the same people as today post Aroman collapse.

I assumed that we'd used the solution that the islands in the north of Europa were the original homelands but in the intervening thousand years or so, peoples and tribes had moved around the coasts to settle in Anglia?

 

10 hours ago, Orioni said:

Just an idea: could we create some crosslinks between the branches of this storyline? Right now I find myself reading one news story and several foreign affairs channels, which reference each other but don't always include links. With your collective permission I can add some links where needed.

This is necessary, I think.

Of course, Tagmatium is going to outright reject the suggestion of the Orinese that Tagmatine foreign policy is soley informed by one foreign news source.

This isn't true, especially since my monarch received a letter from the Anglian one but Orioni isn't a close enough ally for Tagmatium to share that.

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@Tagmatium Rules Yes, this works for me. I was just a little bit out of the loop. I learned in this case it's always best to just ask. IC'ly, I do expect you as the next-door neighbour to have eyes on the ground in all parts of the Occident and even Qubdi. If Anglia eyes territory further south this might also come to include Chrysi Akti (a place we decided had Aroman lore) and Zharr of @Haruspex.

@All — I took care of adding some links between the various pages of this storyline. A summary of all the diplomatic outrage will do quite nicely. The OOC paragraph at the bottom will explain more.

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6 hours ago, Orioni said:

@Tagmatium Rules Yes, this works for me. I was just a little bit out of the loop. I learned in this case it's always best to just ask. IC'ly, I do expect you as the next-door neighbour to have eyes on the ground in all parts of the Occident and even Qubdi. If Anglia eyes territory further south this might also come to include Chrysi Akti (a place we decided had Aroman lore) and Zharr of @Haruspex.

@All — I took care of adding some links between the various pages of this storyline. A summary of all the diplomatic outrage will do quite nicely. The OOC paragraph at the bottom will explain more.

The Hermitage Islands are explicitly not a sovereign state. They're a neglected outpost that has suddenly become relevant again due to changes in the geo-political landscape, specifically the events of Corinium but also the Argic Passage stuff.

This is detailed a bit more here:

The post's been up for over a month, so I imagine that most people are cool with that as a way of expansion. There are no native or aboriginal settlements, much like the IRL Svalbard that I'm drawing off.

Algernon could make the point about Tagmatium protesting militarisation whilst doing the same thing, but he'd likely not mistake the islands for a sovereign nation. Especially not since prior to my navy arriving, everyone on the island are either from my border guard, coast guard or connected to the Church.

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9 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

The Hermitage Islands are explicitly not a sovereign state.

I've modified the post to remove this mention.

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@Seylos Couple of comments and questions.

1. A IIWiki page was created for the conflict. I'm maintaining the timeline. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/2021_Anglian_War

2. Where possible I added some more details to the ENN stories. For example: a name for that Grand Vizier of Alshamal. I'd like to have similar details for Great Anglia. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Great_Anglia

3. The OCA Pact continues to balloon Anglia to near overpowered proportions. With 7 additional countries joining in one news post.

So I was thinking of having Dragonryders accept the EOS invitation for protection. It makes sense and can counterbalance the expanding Anglian imperialism.

 

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@San Castellino Earlier today I noticed you're offering secret military support to Anglia. This information is secret so nobody but Anglia will be able to respond to it.

I do want to warn you that any IC overt support for Anglia will get you suspended from the EOS. I'm referring to your May 13th declaration of intention.

 

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And that's exactly why San Castellino will keep secret his support to Anglia until that they will really need to do it. In addition, show an overt support to Anglia would greatly compromise the relationship between San Castellino and @Tagmatium Rules.

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1 hour ago, San Castellino said:

And that's exactly why San Castellino will keep secret his support to Anglia until that they will really need to do it. In addition, show an overt support to Anglia would greatly compromise the relationship between San Castellino and @Tagmatium Rules.

At the moment, it might cause some unease in Tagmatika after the fall of Fearannteth but, similarly, induction of San Castellino into the embrace of the perfidious Orinese would have also have caused that.

Likely, if this got out, there'd be hope that EOS could keep them in line or that it kill two birds with one stone and disrupt the EOS.

The slightly puzzling reply the Orinese sent to the Tagmatine attempt to reach out to them hasn't gone unnoticed.

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6 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

At the moment, it might cause some unease in Tagmatika after the fall of Fearannteth but, similarly, induction of San Castellino into the embrace of the perfidious Orinese would have also have caused that.

Likely, if this got out, there'd be hope that EOS could keep them in line or that it kill two birds with one stone and disrupt the EOS.

The slightly puzzling reply the Orinese sent to the Tagmatine attempt to reach out to them hasn't gone unnoticed.

So, if I well understand, you mean that it could be kind of "ok" for Tagmatium that San Castellino takes sides with Anglia if, finally, San Castellino choose Tagmatium than the EOS (and thus Orioni) ?

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