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Hey everyone, so the staff have been discussing this for bit and I want to bring it to the greater community for comment. We've been wanting to help everyone become engaged in a single global eve

The Phase 1 and 2 of Anglian expansion should give people quite a bit of buffer time to get ready for the biggest stuff. I'll be ending Ceris soon hopefully so it shouldn't coincide with any actual co

I would be ok to have Anglian invasions happen in or near Westzeeland. My military is ok but it will no chance of surviving.

I'm very excited for this. I'm intending to use the New Wurld Colonization phase as a precursor to my expansion into the Kidney Islands, after which Fulgistan, Yeosan and the Kidney Islands will become the Federation of Alharun Socialist Republics. 

Besides that, I'm very keen to do battle with the Europan imperialists and their New Wurld running dogs wherever the need may be. I am also interested in using the D20 system for some events.

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On 3/30/2021 at 9:18 PM, Seylos said:

So to continue on with the New Wurld landing sites, does anyone else have suggested landing areas for Anglia?

How much of a strategy is there?

I assume the landing sites as they are indicated on the map don't represent the initial attack. Presumably those are the stages condensed. I think that Anglia's actions seem to be best compared to the actions of Imperial Japan - there ought to be an intial hammerblow that sends the wurld or a part of the wurld reeling and then Anglia is able to steamroll bits afterwards.

Anglia is equivalent to Tagmatium, roughly, and there is no way that Tagmatium could storm that many nations at one time without support. Admittedly, a few helping hands would be able to improve that.

I'd suggest that Anglia spends time sorting out allies before it tries to bite chunks out of the New Wurld. With the backing of nations such as @Haruspex it would be able to initially sweep the ocean clear for its actions, but that would not last nor would it be sustainable. And it'd clearly be unsustainable to any high command. Imperial Japan was able to take advantage of a wurld War and there is no such thing, although the lack of globalisation might mean that it's a bit easier to deal with.

These are merely some thoughts and I'm rambling a bit.

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4 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

How much of a strategy is there?

I assume the landing sites as they are indicated on the map don't represent the initial attack. Presumably those are the stages condensed. I think that Anglia's actions seem to be best compared to the actions of Imperial Japan - there ought to be an intial hammerblow that sends the wurld or a part of the wurld reeling and then Anglia is able to steamroll bits afterwards.

Anglia is equivalent to Tagmatium, roughly, and there is no way that Tagmatium could storm that many nations at one time without support. Admittedly, a few helping hands would be able to improve that.

I'd suggest that Anglia spends time sorting out allies before it tries to bite chunks out of the New Wurld. With the backing of nations such as @Haruspex it would be able to initially sweep the ocean clear for its actions, but that would not last nor would it be sustainable. And it'd clearly be unsustainable to any high command. Imperial Japan was able to take advantage of a wurld War and there is no such thing, although the lack of globalisation might mean that it's a bit easier to deal with.

These are merely some thoughts and I'm rambling a bit.

Some good thoughts, perhaps a lot of these "landing" sites will be more places they were able to coerce into client status? Or allies that will become intensely dependent on Anglia in the future.

And also it was meant more in the way of where the rest of the community would have the most fun with their landing zones.

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On 3/29/2021 at 9:16 PM, Seylos said:

1. Nope, I think every single person on the forum is onboard with this being a full canon RP. I doubt this will be a single RP though, this could be many events/RPs over the course of months.

So this big war against Great Anglia _will_ be canon?

I'm asking again because this other part has me somewhat confused.

On 3/27/2021 at 5:01 PM, Seylos said:

Anglian annexations are not permanent. After Anglia is defeated all territories will revert back to unowned NPC status like before the conflict. We can also use this opportunity as an in world reason to help clean up the Europan map later.

So the territorial changes are supposed be canon but _not_ permanent?

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11 minutes ago, Orioni said:

So this big war against Great Anglia _will_ be canon?

I'm asking again because this other part has me somewhat confused.

So the territorial changes are supposed be canon but _not_ permanent?

I suppose if the war ends with Anglia defeated, it'll be like the end of every other war - the territory taken by the loser is either handed back or passed into the hands of the victor.

If they win, then we've got another thing coming :P

This was something I suggested to @Seylos for the starting moves for Anglia. I think it should be added here for something to others to look at:

"So. To not f*ck shit up. If the parts of Suverina that were given as part of the Lockdown of NW Europa thread kick off, as they were formerly Qubdi but for ethnic or religious reasons did not want to be. Anglia acts as a guarantor but is effectively is able to annex them, which emboldens further actions. That way, no premature Tagmatine involvement and it kind of acts as a Sudentenland moment."

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On 3/27/2021 at 7:45 PM, Westzeeland said:

I would be ok to have Anglian invasions happen in or near Westzeeland. My military is ok but it will no chance of surviving.

In fairness, your military probably has a lot of defensive plans. They'd be on home turf and operating from an advantage. Your military probably has a good chance at holding out, or at least making the initial attempts at an invasion very difficult. From where you might be located, they'd have to storm the Keelpijp and you'd know they were coming towards you.

A lot of it will depend on what the Anglians do once they're in country. If they go super brutal and start popping off civilians, then capitulation might be the best option. If it's "just" an occupation, your military probably has plans to act as a thorn in the side of any occupiers for a while.

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Well this would be the perfect time for me to be the new Ahrana and Role Play a active neutrality in the entire situation even in the last stages, the only time Ahrana would actively engage in battle would be to protect its borders and the Argis Area around it. Ahrana will most likely never officially declare war on anyone during this or perhaps after this, what will most likely happen is the country will lobby for peace at all costs. Like I said earlier Ahrana will most likely not declare war but remain neutral unless attacked. 

Like what @Delamariasaid about a landing in Argis, that would be the only way Ahrana would engage militarily but this would be attempted to be avoided at all costs.

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21 minutes ago, Ahrana said:

Well this would be the perfect time for me to be the new Ahrana and Role Play a active neutrality in the entire situation even in the last stages, the only time Ahrana would actively engage in battle would be to protect its borders and the Argis Area around it. Ahrana will most likely never officially declare war on anyone during this or perhaps after this, what will most likely happen is the country will lobby for peace at all costs. Like I said earlier Ahrana will most likely not declare war but remain neutral unless attacked. 

Like what @Delamariasaid about a landing in Argis, that would be the only way Ahrana would engage militarily but this would be attempted to be avoided at all costs.

It looks like the national colour of Ahrana is yellow.

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15 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

It looks like the national colour of Ahrana is yellow.

Im afraid i do not understand the reference. 

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On 3/30/2021 at 4:16 AM, Seylos said:

Area 51 still exists in my heart

🤫 You must not speak of such thinks. Unless, perhaps, in the brand-new https://www.europans.com/forum/158-non-canon-works/

On 3/31/2021 at 8:13 AM, Delamaria said:

I would say a landing in Argis itself might draw more interest than those fairly far south.

I'd imagine the supply lines would also be quite overstretched. No sane commander would see this as a logical move. Then again, we're talking about Great Anglia here.

On 4/10/2021 at 11:47 AM, Tagmatium Rules said:

Tagmatium is also more likely to not want to throw its more reliable allies under the bus and will try to aid them. If maybe not overtly at first.

Working from the shadows. Supporting either side just so you can influence any potential outcomes. I like it.

On 4/11/2021 at 12:59 AM, Haruspex said:

In the short term, the experienced combat troops and the ruthlessness of said troops could cause capitulation from a variety of affected countries. As the Haru are already ostracized, they suffer less on that front then say Tagmatium.

This makes your and Tag's position clear. Now you Occidentals only need to figure out how the direct neighbours @Adaptus and @Suverina would respond. It's your collective backyard.

On 4/10/2021 at 11:47 AM, Tagmatium Rules said:

With the Amnalos and Raga Seas dominated by the cooperation between Anglia and the Haru, trade between Tagmatium and the rest of the wurld is threatened.

"If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The EOS-Team."

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