[OOC] Anglia Event | Part I: Great Anglian Crisis

[Anatea]

15 hours ago, Orioni said:

Is anyone interested in helping out with the IIWiki page for this conflict? The events from June are still missing. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/2021_Anglian_War

If you need i can help with artworks!

 

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Question: i have my two mercenary characters that i would like to involve in the war that is going on in the south-western part of Europa, problem is that all the prequel rp is done only through news, so i don't know how to rp with them, because i would like to use the narrative way i always use like i did for the Dalstavian War

@Orioni@Seylos About this: may i make a news post, and under it (maybe as spoiler) the narrative RP part? Just to see in details the war of expansions and add some more lore

Edited July 6, 2021 by Anatea (see edit history)

[Tagmatium Rules]

Would TRIDENT/other PfPs be interested in a discussion of the growing Anglia Crisis?

[Orioni]

While anticipating the post-conflict consequences of this RP, would there be a need for peacekeeping forces? How about a reconstruction budget?

[Seylos]

So I wanted to get everyone's opinions on the Anglia crisis so far. As of now Anglia has secured itself in Europa with the OCA allies and is turning its attention to the New Wurld. I'm hoping to get some feedback from everyone on how they would like to progress and I'm going to put a poll on here as well.

My question is mainly how do we want Anglia to be aggressive. Do we want the staff to push it forward to cause conflict, or do we want each nation to RP its own encounters in a more decentralized matter. I would really like to hear everyone's opinions on this.

[Orioni]

Speaking only for myself, at the moment I'm quite content with containment of the OCA. Some strong words to keep them off the Meteorolan archipelago. A declaration without teeth. The usual bluffing.

I'm open to rolling the dice on whether this proves to be successful or not. Continuing tensions with the OCA seem like fun, unpredictable factor for future stories. What used to be a great unknown region has now received a face and opinion.

 

[Zaxar]

I believe we had discussed an Anglian ally being placed just south of myself to provide Aurelia with some action. The details are not finalized as far as I know, but we had discussed it being a former Lysian colony that had then been ruled by Fearannteth since ~1790. As far as I know it has no name yet.

So in my opinion it would be best if the staff controlled the major actions (such as declarations of war, surrender, relations, etc.) of this NPC but with Aurelia jointly controlling military actions, history, and such.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Zaxar (see edit history)

[Orioni]

21 hours ago, Zaxar said:

we had discussed an Anglian ally being placed just south of myself to provide Aurelia with some action. The details are not finalized as far as I know, but we had discussed it being a former Lysian colony that had then been ruled by Fearannteth since ~1790. As far as I know it has no name yet.

This would put Anglia in control of yet another strategic choke point.

[Zaxar]

34 minutes ago, Orioni said:

This would put Anglia in control of yet another strategic choke point.

That would be a quite viable strategy for their eventual goal of wurld domination.

[Tagmatium Rules]

Where are we at with this?

[Orioni]

Could perhaps King Creighton give a speech for the new year? This would give his character more weight. I could write a text for this. Please feel free to propose any topics he should highlight.

[Seylos]

I feel like I can whip something up. Bring out my inner imperialist.

[Zaxar]

On 12/8/2021 at 7:16 PM, Zaxar said:

I believe we had discussed an Anglian ally being placed just south of myself to provide Aurelia with some action. The details are not finalized as far as I know, but we had discussed it being a former Lysian colony that had then been ruled by Fearannteth since ~1790. As far as I know it has no name yet.

Me and @Oyus finally had a discussion about this "Aurelian Anglia ally" and this is what we came up with:

Côte de Fourrure (CF)

Proposed borders and cities

Capital: Port au Sud

Government: Military Stratocracy

Demographics: Majority Lysian with a Fearannth minority

Ruler: Field Marshal Caitlin Friseal

(IRL Ann Dunwoody)

Basic History:

• CF is founded by Lysian fishers, whalers, fur traders, and merchants in the early 1700s and becomes an important center of trade connecting the west and the east.
• CF is seized by Fearannth (FT) as a colony in 1756. (Unrelated: Several thousand Lysians flee north to assimilate with the natives and eventually found Zaxar).
• FT loses control of the colony on November 5th, 1902 due to conflict at home.
• The nation of CF is founded and becomes self-governing
• Shortly afterwards, an ethnically FT military coup takes over the government
• CF's government increasingly aligns itself with Anglia in order to try and maintain their grip on power against ethnic Lysian resistance.

Note: this has now been confirmed by the other Southern Aurelians

Edited January 6, 2022 by Zaxar (see edit history)

[Kirvina]

Confirming Anglian position.

[Tagmatium Rules]

29 minutes ago, Zaxar said:

Me and @Oyus finally had a discussion about this "Aurelian Anglia ally" and this is what we came up with:

Côte de Fourrure (CF)

Proposed borders and cities

Capital: Port au Sud

Government: Military Stratocracy

Demographics: Majority Lysian with a Fearannth minority

Ruler: Field Marshal Caitlin Friseal

(IRL Ann Dunwoody)

Basic History:

• CF is founded by Lysian fishers, whalers, fur traders, and merchants in the early 1700s and becomes an important center of trade connecting the west and the east.
• CF is seized by Fearannth (FT) as a colony. (Unrelated: Several thousand Lysians flee north to assimilate with the natives and eventually found Zaxar).
• FT loses control of the colony in 1756 due to conflict at home.
• The nation of CF is founded and becomes self-governing
• Shortly afterwards, an ethnically FT military coup takes over the government
• CF's government increasingly aligns itself with Anglia in order to try and maintain their grip on power against ethnic Lysian resistance.

Note: this is still awaiting confirmation by the other Southern Aurelians ( @Kirvina @Rhodellia @Anatea )

Seems pretty good

Although they're only distantly related to the Lysians/SDC, would they have much of an opinion on it? As sort of their distant ancestor nation?

[Zaxar]

On 12/29/2021 at 4:54 PM, Tagmatium Rules said:Although they're only distantly related to the Lysians/SDC, would they have much of an opinion on it? As sort of their distant ancestor nation?

To try and address your question, I was more thinking that my Lysian population would resent the fact that their ethnic brothers are being oppressed right on their borders as well as they would have historic claims to the region. Similar to how ethnic germans and Irish etc in the US wanted to support sides in WW1 despite them not having lived there at any point. This could help to set the stage for the outbreak of war (possibly) in South Aurelia while making diplomatic solutions harder to achieve.

[Rhodellia]

Confirm

[Anatea]

On 12/29/2021 at 10:41 PM, Zaxar said:

Me and @Oyus finally had a discussion about this "Aurelian Anglia ally" and this is what we came up with:

Côte de Fourrure (CF)

Proposed borders and cities

Capital: Port au Sud

Government: Military Stratocracy

Demographics: Majority Lysian with a Fearannth minority

Ruler: Field Marshal Caitlin Friseal

(IRL Ann Dunwoody)

Basic History:

• CF is founded by Lysian fishers, whalers, fur traders, and merchants in the early 1700s and becomes an important center of trade connecting the west and the east.
• CF is seized by Fearannth (FT) as a colony in 1756. (Unrelated: Several thousand Lysians flee north to assimilate with the natives and eventually found Zaxar).
• FT loses control of the colony on November 5th, 1902 due to conflict at home.
• The nation of CF is founded and becomes self-governing
• Shortly afterwards, an ethnically FT military coup takes over the government
• CF's government increasingly aligns itself with Anglia in order to try and maintain their grip on power against ethnic Lysian resistance.

Note: this is still awaiting confirmation by the other Southern Aurelians (@Anatea)

For me looks good, nothing against it!

[Xio]

I can take this to be an NPC application for Côte de Fourrure to be placed on the map if @Orioni provides me permission.
Let's the nation exist on the map for a bit before the Anglian event kicks off into high gear, and means the Aurelians can start their portion of the Anglian crisis sooner rather than later.

[Seylos]

This looks good, glad to see an agreed Anglia NPC in Aurelia.

I plan on slowly moving forward with Dolchland stuff, to show some more Anglian involvement to get the New Wurld rolling.

[Anatea]

26 minutes ago, Seylos said:

This looks good, glad to see an agreed Anglia NPC in Aurelia.

I plan on slowly moving forward with Dolchland stuff, to show some more Anglian involvement to get the New Wurld rolling.

Noice, can't wait for the invas- i mean, for having to deal peacefully with Anglia >:D

[Orioni]

On 1/7/2022 at 12:59 PM, Xio said:

I can take this to be an NPC application for Côte de Fourrure to be placed on the map if @Orioni provides me permission.

We'd ask the nearest neighbour for permission. But that's @Zaxarand he proposed the idea.  And the other locals @Anatea, @Rhodellia and @Kirvina also appear to be onboard. So that's a green light from everyone who might be impacted.

[Orioni]

In early January, I proposed to open up diplomatic channels with @Great Anglia to try and defuse the situation. The response was rather ambiguous. Which neutral, third-party nation would be willing to serve as location for such a discussion. You don't have to do anything, just allow being mentioned as a place where diplomats try to work out a disagreement.

 

[Tagmatium Rules]

1 hour ago, Orioni said:

In early January, I proposed to open up diplomatic channels with @Great Anglia to try and defuse the situation. The response was rather ambiguous. Which neutral, third-party nation would be willing to serve as location for such a discussion. You don't have to do anything, just allow being mentioned as a place where diplomats try to work out a disagreement.

 

Anglia cows the perfidious Orinese!

Only Tagmatium and @Haruspex stand against the threat of Anglian dominion!

[Zaxar]

3 hours ago, Orioni said:

Which neutral, third-party nation would be willing to serve as location for such a discussion. You don't have to do anything, just allow being mentioned as a place where diplomats try to work out a disagreement.

 

Zaxar is neutral at the moment so we'd be happy to host. You could use the Sandrica Palace or the Green Falls Palace if you don't mind traveling far away to a non-Europan country. It may be beneficial to meet in a region which neither Anglia nor the anti-Anglia (trident maybe- idk what alliance it is exactly) alliance have any claim. I understand though if you'd rather a middle point in Europa.

[Seylos]

It's possible Zaxar could work. At this point there is really no ideal "neutral" country so Zaxar could be as good as any other haha