Meteorola Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 To: Niederoestereich From: Meteorola Re: A Bridge/Tunnel to connect Amberley, Niederoestereich and Uplift, Meteorola  Great and honorable leaders of Niederoestereich, Meteorola has completed a preliminary study of the mutual economic advanages of connecting the great Niederoestereich city of Amberley to the Meteorolan city of Uplift. Our study finds that this bridge will enhance the economies, not only the cities they connect, but the whole of both countries as well.  In the event that you agree, we would like to begin to disscuss how to procced in designing such a long distance connection and begin to coordinate a budget for the project. (Meteorola would also connect Uplift into the highway system that currently connects our other cities.) We would also like to discuss whether a bridge or a tunnel would be more benificial.  Or in the event that you would like to conduct a study of your own, let us know.  We feel that this will bring economic, and political stability in a sign of mutual friendship. We hope you agree.  Hurricane Eric of the Allied States of Meteorola Jay Summers Minister of Meteorolan Commerce Link to comment
Niederoestereich Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 To: Meteorola From: Niederoestereich Subject: Tunnel/Bridge Idea  This idea of a tunnel to bride the gap between our nations does seem like a worthy idea. But, as u may well know, S.S.S.S currently has naval vessels moored at Amberley as well as staff, and as the tensions between Meteorola and S.S.S.S are not sorted, it seem a bit strange.  Although we will for certain, take a look at this, and weight up pros and cons. Some questions that we would like an answer to must be asked: What sort of transport would you have in mind for this venture. Rail, Road or Dual What would be the deal in entering the countries, are there passport stations. How would it be policed.  These are just some of the questions. More discussion will come later when the government as consulted various engineering and trade firms  Foreign Affairs Minister Link to comment
Orioni Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 TO: Meteorola, Niederoestereich FROM: Orioni SUBJECT: Offer  We offer you our expertise in bridgebuilding. Just take a look at the bridges between San Ba and Orioni. Please let us know if we can be of any assistance. Link to comment
Phil VII Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 As the area of sea between the Niederoestereich and SSSS island and the islands of Meterola is an importent piece of ocean, we ask what are the plans for allowing ships through those waters. Will there be a gate in the centre of the bridge that can be raised? will the bridge be high enought to let all ships under anyway? How will this problem be solved?. Link to comment
Meteorola Posted February 19, 2005 Author Share Posted February 19, 2005 To: Niederoestereich From: Meteorola Subject: Re: Tunnel/Bridge Idea  We feel the issue of SSSS is a non-issue and that this is strictly a commercial project between two nations wishing to rebuild ties. We do not see this as a concern as the SSSS military presece is largely navel, and thereby the bridge/tunnel would niether hinder nor enhance SSSS military capabilities.  What sort of transport would you have in mind for this venture. Rail, Road or Dual  We intended road only, at first and to study the potential increased benifits of adding rail after the construction of the bridge/tunnel. However we can investigate rail before hand.  What would be the deal in entering the countries, are there passport stations.  We would conduct a smilar method of entering Meteorola as we do in our Airports and Seaports, of a passport from a friendly foriegn country and a passport along with a visa from an unfriendly country (ie in the event that a non-Niederoestereich national attempted to enter Meteorola along the bridge/tunnel). We would leave your own regulation of border crossings to your own policies.  How would it be policed.  The Meteorolan Navy would patrol the bridge tunnel from the water as well as police from the State of Uplift (the state that the bridge/tunnel will conncet to Amberley).  Hurricane Eric  +======================================+ To: Orioni CC: Niederoestereich From: Meteorola Subject: Re: Offer  Meteorola thanks you for you assistance. Are there any hazards you have found with bridges? Would you recomend a tunnel instead?  Any other information you might have about such a long bridge would be extremely helpful.  Hurricane Eric  +======================================+ To: Phil V CC: Niederoestereich From: Meteorola Subject: Re: Structure Height  We have detemined that 1,500 feet (500 meters) clearance for ships is needed for commercial traffic to continue. Meteorola is commited to the continued operation of commerce. Another option would be to construct a Tunnel-Bridge combination (OOC: This has been done in the real world, I live near one of the larger ones- if not the largest at over 17 miles long) or a straight out tunnel project.  Feel free to contact me if you need any further assistance.  Hurricane Eric Link to comment
Phil VII Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 TO: Meterola From: Phil V RE: Tunnel Bridge Combination? Â could you be more specific as to your plans, existing tunnel-bridges do occur in the world, but nowhere near as large and long as your proposed bridge. We would like some reassurment that our trade routes around Europa wil not be affected. Link to comment
Meteorola Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 To: Meterola From: Phil V Re: Tunnel Bridge Combination? Â What further assurance can I offer you? We are commited to not interupting trade routes. Remember as an island nation we are almost completely reliant on shipping. Also, the span connecting Orioni and San Ba is longer than these span or tunnel would be and didn't interupt shipping- niether would our connection. Link to comment
Orioni Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 To: Orioni CC: Niederoestereich From: Meteorola Subject: Re: Offer  Meteorola thanks you for you assistance. Are there any hazards you have found with bridges? Would you recomend a tunnel instead?  Any other information you might have about such a long bridge would be extremely helpful.  Hurricane Eric TO: Meteorola CC: Niederoestereich FROM: Orioni SUBJECT: Concerning long bridges  Let us start by saying it is wise of you to accept our assitance. Our technicians have some information you might take into consideration when planning the construction of a bridge, if you were to decide to go ahead with this option.  When constructing such a bridge, you must be sure that the seabottom is not too deep, because your foundations should be able to stant firm. Since you have also considered a tunnel, we believe that the seabed wont pose a problem.  Concerning the buildingmaterial. About a decade ago, a leading scientific laboratory in Orioni created Carbon Nanotubes. This is an extremely strong material since Nanotubes are composed entirely of sp? bonds, similar to graphite; stronger than the sp? bonds found in diamond. We use this material often to construct our bridges. If you are interested in the use of this material, please contact our Ministery of Commerce about any orders and/or deliveries of the Carbon Nanotubes.  Besides these two remarks, we can also give you some practical advice. It has not happened often, but you never know. Because the weather in the Terranian Sea can sometimes be quite stormy, Security and Coastguard advised us to set up shelters at regular intervals of 3 km (this means the maximum distance from a shelter is only 1,5 km). In case travelers are trapped on the bridge during a storm, they can take cover in these shelters, where they can find: food, first aid kit, tele- and satelite-communications, sleepingfacilities, liferafts, etc. Just about everything that might be needed in case of an emergency. Besides these shelters, there are Guardsposts every 15 km. These have an internal harbor, helipad, small hospital plus all the facilities a shelter offers. When visualized, it would look like this:   ===[GP]===============[GP]===============[GP]===  = 1km s shelter GP Guardpost    If you have any more questions, feel free to contact us. Link to comment
Niederoestereich Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 We personally see a tunnel as the best way for this to work. Although it does have disadvantages: Petrolium Fumes i.e Ventation Hard for a possible Rescue, i.e an engine fire(unless some support shafts, are built for this)  But it would also be less dangerous in rough weather, would not block surface traffic, easier to police i.e Cameras  The tunnel would also have to be built someway into the sea floor, not just sitting on top, to ensure less accidents occur.  A bridge on the otherhand. Would have to compansate for wind pulsations, water and wind harmonics, extra supports for bad weather  But accidents would be easy to get to, via chopper or ship, less car fumes, etc  There will be other pros and cons that i have not mentioned, but time is short  Kant Link to comment
Meteorola Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 There is of course the option to do both. Use a causeway bridge that allows shipping in several locations by sending the road underwater, in a tunnel. This would make the bridge less vulnerable to the elements and allow shipping to continue without height restrictions. Ventalation concerns would be limited to only the regions where tunnel(s) are, helping to limit the cost. Â Here is an example of just such a structure that we currently have connecting Foggy Bottom and Vorti City: Â Â The two islands here were man made in very deep waters. Link to comment
Senator Gaius Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Will this bridge be like that one connecting Sicily to Italy and be owned by the Mafia? Link to comment
Meteorola Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 Of course not. It would be jointly own, maintained and patroled by Meteorola (with assistance from the local government of Uplift) and Niederoestereich, through whatever means they find best accomadate their government. Link to comment
Niederoestereich Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 TO: Meteorola From: Niederoestereich  We have discussed this for long hours, and have decided that this dual bridge tunnel system with causeways would most be the most likely if being realistic. If you wish also wish for this project to go ahead, we are willing.  Now for the design of the bridge, will this handled only by Meteorola/ Niederoestereich engineers or the europa region.  Should a public compentetion be held for designs to be submitted?  Kant Link to comment
Meteorola Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 Meteorola is suspending the Bridge-Tunnel project until further notice. SSSS has continued thier agressive actions and we are sad to report that Niederoestereichs hand is being forced by it. Â As you can well understand this will prevent us from continuing these plans until this has been resolved. Â We regret this temporary stoppage. Link to comment
Stoned Smurfs Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 The SSSS is highly upset that Niederoestereich would be willing to set a direct route from the mainland to a nation with the accountability in question such as Meteorola. The SSSS objects to the building of such bridge but would not do anything to halt such a progress. The SSSS asks that Niederoestereich reconsiders such an undertaking. Link to comment
Meteorola Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 To: N-riech From: Meteorola Re: Restarting the bridge negitaions  With the ending to the Europa-wide political crisis, Meteorola is ready to begin discussing the Bridge-Tunnel Project again.  Once again we regret the inconvient halt in our plans. Link to comment
Niederoestereich Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 TO: Meteorola From: Niederoestereich Subject: Bridging the Gap  Very well, we are still willing to partake in this venture. We will start to re-evaulate the principles in bridge construction. Please contact with futher details once decided on your behalf Link to comment
Meteorola Posted March 7, 2005 Author Share Posted March 7, 2005 We are ready to proceed with drawing up blue prints. It seems to us that we were nearing an agreement that it should be a bridge tunnel combination, because of the distance. Â I belive we still needed to speak of funding the construction, as well as security. Link to comment
Orioni Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 TO: Niederoestereich, Meteorola FROM: Orioni SUBJECT: Funding the bridge  In a brief statement, the Ministry of Commerce has said it would like to fund a percentage of the development, in return for some sort of economic benefit for commercial ventures from Orioni. Link to comment
Stoned Smurfs Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 President Pot still wonders how after Meteorola disputed the act of the SS giving Niederoestereich more land and after they called it 'bribing' how can Niederoestereich still want to go ahead with this expensive and quite impossible task of creating a direct route from our mainland to a hostile nation. A nation that has very little to offer and has acted in such a hostile way in trying to police a failing government. Niederoestereich and the SSSS are allies but the act of making a direct route between the mainland and a hostile nation puts a strain on the alliance. President Pot hopes Niederoestereich reconsiders this. Link to comment
Meteorola Posted March 8, 2005 Author Share Posted March 8, 2005 For a country so concerned with fighting to the death for its allies, the SSSS seems to have no problem threatening its allies. That is something that in Meteorola is called "Fair weather friend". Â At the same time, Orioni seems to be interested in building ties. Despite the tenions remaining between N-riech and Orioni as well as the tenions between Meteorola and N-riech, there have been several attempts made at encouraging mutual understanding. One that transends allainces and military blocks. Link to comment
Meteorola Posted March 8, 2005 Author Share Posted March 8, 2005 To: Orioni CC: N-riech From: Meteorola  We would be in favor of such an offer, pending N-riech's veiw of this offer and pending the kind of economic benifits you would require.  Hurricane Eric Link to comment
Orioni Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 We would be in favor of such an offer, pending N-riech's veiw of this offer and pending the kind of economic benifits you would require. We were wondering if you could make the use of your bridge/tunnel toll-free for our nationals, since our government would have helped with the project. You are imposing some sort of toll, are you not? If not, then we would have to investigate some other way that could be pleasant for all parties involved. Link to comment
Stoned Smurfs Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 The SSSS would like to note they have not threatened our island brothers in any way. We also stated that we would not do anything disrupt such a project but we did object to it. We just hope our ally understands the difficulty of us accepting a direct land link from one hostile nation to our mainland when the air and sea are more than capable of handling all traffic between the mainland and other small islands such as Meteorola. We are still not convinced that this is anything more than an easier way to smuggle in exposives and other illegal contraband. We do hope that our island brothers will atleast try and convince us this is for the good or turn away from this project. If the project goes threw without the SS being convinced everything was on the up and up then it would put a strain on the alliance but would not break it, not by a long shot. Link to comment
Niederoestereich Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 At current, yes we do still want to go ahead with this project. Tensions are not as well as they could between N-reich and others, and this will help promote both trust and understanding of the niederoestereich cultural through promotion of bringing tourists here. We believe it will increase our economy and therefore improving quality of all peoples within our nation. Also allows us to become a more combined and stronger nation.  We are still not convinced that this is anything more than an easier way to smuggle in explosives and other illegal contraband  Yes that is a risk, but if you want to remain as safe as possible, might as well lockdown your country and allow no one in. Have faith in what our police and customs officers can do.  In a brief statement, the Ministry of Commerce has said it would like to fund a percentage of the development, in return for some sort of economic benefit for commercial ventures from Orioni  We do not have any major problems with this, although we are not quite sure what benefit could directly come from a bridge/tunnel built no where near Orionian Territory, if you propose a toll-free fair for Orionian nationals, that would seem hardly fair when the main contributors and users of the Bridge are Niederoestereich and Meteorola whom still have to cough up a toll to pass through. Further information and negotiations are needed  Link to comment
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