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Rihan should be apart of this list as it was determined by Team Aurelia's continent meeting that there is no further purpose for their continuation. All lore has been or is slated to be reconciled. Fjallshima is also on this list as they took up Kipan (a Rihan puppet that otherwise would have been wiped) only to conclude they didn't have the drive to participate in our community. No one on Aurelia had any real ties to either iteration, thus erasure would be ideal. Limonaia will likely be removed based off discussions had with those most affected by it via history self reconciliation (Anatea & Shffahkia). Shffahkia has stated they would *prefer* Limonaia is left alone but will not formally object to their erasure should it come to pass. Limonaia has left and stated that they have no desire to continue on here.

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With regards to Beleareas, they came back briefly and made a few posts in the summer of 2020.

Does that mean they still fit the criteria for their nation being reduced in size?

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10 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

With regards to Beleareas, they came back briefly and made a few posts in the summer of 2020.

Does that mean they still fit the criteria for their nation being reduced in size?

I'd say so. He proposed a RP idea then dipped. Great Burlington style - make a post then leave for another year. My personal opinion is that we don't count this. 

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I would like to add another to this list that somehow has slipped through the cracks: Selayar. It has been over a year since they have been spotted on the forums if you see their account last login, and even longer since their last post (1year and 2 months give or take). At the very least their reservation ought to be wiped from Aurelia and potentially even their original claim on their home isle outright.

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