idea [IDEA] War on terror RPG & Alharu War beginning

[Anatea]

Hello all!

After quite some time i managed to finally describe a terrorist faction that i want to use in a War on Terror rp, that i absolutely need for begin to rp a sub-plot of Anatea that will make the nation a internationally involved nation around the world in peackeeping operations and that will bring it out from its isolationism  While i was writing i even casually found a nice trigger that people could use for the Alharu War that everyone wants (seems a cool war indeed *__* )

So here you go the terrorist faction's description with some notes in it  i decided to post it here for having it reviewed and even modify it to your likings in case it could collide with some nation histories

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GROUP NAME: Alharuian Independent Force (AIF)

MISSION: Mantain the indipendence of the Alharu continent and protect it from the imperialism of foreign countries.

HISTORY: During the expansion of Insert NPC or Player Nation Here [1] in the areas of Alharu various nations (NPC nations) in the central part of Ahlaru began to take sides with Insert NPC or Player Nation Here to be annexed or be financially assisted, while the southern nations on the contrary did not want any influence from Insert NPC or Player Nation Here , fearing to have their mineral resources taken away or used indiscriminately. This led to a war (1998) [2] that saw the northern nations opposed to the southern ones, from which the latter emerged as winners. Having demonstrated to the world that they are capable of defending themselves, they joined together and created the Alharuian Independent Force, a faction that wants to prevent imperialist nations from subjugating the weakest ones, but the AIF tries to annex the weaker nations both to protect them but also to exploit them, thus creating a sort of protection racket like mercenaries. They will attack Anatea because after the Dalstavian War they saw that Anatea could become a power capable of affecting Aurelia and also many regions of Alharu (while in realty they were hired and supported by [REDACTED] [3] from the beginning, even during the war between the northern and southern nations. The reason why were hired and supported by [REDACTED] is for [REDACTED].)

EQUIPMENT: Cold War Era weapons & vehicles / aircrafts of US production. .

OPERATIVE METHODS & ORGANISATION: Their strenght is in their numbers, having support from the subjugated nations they own and using mostly a forced civilian recruit system for create auxiliary troops. During their attacks they tend to not attack civilians unless they have to send a message or they're constraint, but in realty it's optional for them, and they attack important or strategic targets that they could use for their own sustainment. Despite the old equipment they try not to waste or use it improperly. The AIF is organized in two branches: the Mercenary troops and the Auxilary troops. The Mercenary troops is the main force fully equipped and well trained composed mostly by 20 yo to 40 yo men and women, the Auxilary troops instead are an auxilary force used mainly in full scale operations, like attacks on cities or vast locations. They are barely equipped with what they need and recruited mostly by civilians on the spot. Most of the time they're accompanied by a group of mercenary soldiers, called "Overseers", that act as barrier troops for avoid rebellion in the ranks. They make up the 60% of the force of the AIF and men, women and kids from 14 yo to 50 yo are forcefully recruited as combatant units.

 

[1] Initially was chosen Limonaia as "imperialist" nation, cause Metz was colonized by Limonaia (before it was reconned) and also seems quite a sort of barely imperialist nation 😮 of course metz told me that Limonaia's imperialism wasn't of that kind and so i put a generic term for change it with another Alharu nation (or even Argis nation, but really close to Alharu, like Iverica) or an NPC nation to your likings  

[2] I didn't find the name yet, but maybe that war could be the real Alharu War, after all the setting is quite interesting and gives a lot of opportunities to put some interested nations in it 😮

[3] I wrote [REDACTED] for avoid to spoil who's really behind all the war on terror and its reasons. Of course it's not another nation etc, it' s just another organization created by me that you' ll find out (or that you can spoil if you read my "Collection of RPs about the New Anterian Conflict" i made in my ex region x''D).

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@Metztlitlaca

Edited July 30, 2020 by Anatea (see edit history)

[Xio]

I should first state that I don't think this idea is bad - far from it - but I do have several issues. One of my issues is that there is no real substance to what you're stating. With so many blanks and unknowns it feels like a half-written job. I understand that this was done because your initial plan was to use Limonaia, it wouldn't fit with the canon he had established, but I feel as though you should've tried to reach out to people first before going head first with a nation you may not know too much about.

Secondly, the Great Alharun War (temp name) was in the 70s, so the timelines wouldn't match if you wanted them to co-exist. A third issue is that your nation is on the southern half of Aurelia, and the closest piece of the Alharun desert is over 15,000 km way by sea.

Or over 7,000 km by air.

I will ignore the fact you're not technically on the map yet, as O has done everything to make it canon but publish an updated map. I don't see how it is feasible for your country in the 90s to be able to consistently fly/sail to the Alharun deserts as well as fight a terrorist organisation. I feel like a more obvious one would be the desert right beside you in south-western Aurelia. The only thing there is Rihan's corpse which isn't being used for anything as far as I'm aware. Less of an issue and more of an observation, if you want your terrorist organisation to have a specific ideology to hide behind, Continentalism might work with their whole anti-imperialist identity as it's main goal is to be a force to counteract the growing neo-colonialism and imperialism of Argis and Europan nations into Alharu and Aurelia.

To be honest, my biggest issue with this is that you feel as though you need to repeat your nation's actions from a previous group here. Why not experiment with new alternatives you never could in your old region? Or a new pathway to the same results if you require them to have the same conclusion. Just my own thoughts though.
 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Metztlitlaca
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[Anatea]

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

I should first state that I don't think this idea is bad - far from it - but I do have several issues. One of my issues is that there is no real substance to what you're stating. With so many blanks and unknowns it feels like a half-written job. I understand that this was done because your initial plan was to use Limonaia, it wouldn't fit with the canon he had established, but I feel as though you should've tried to reach out to people first before going head first with a nation you may not know too much about.

Yeah, i know ^^" that's why i posted the description of the terrorist group here, hoping to be reviewed and corrected/noticed from people who wants to partecipate  but as i said, "modify it to your likings", so anyone can partecipate and be part of the rp or adapt it for being able to partecipate  i can't put names etc if people don't give me the permission or else, that's why i just post the proposal and then if someone wants to partecipate will be welcome (other than having the possibility to see if that nation would fit in the rp ofc) 
 

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

Secondly, the Great Alharun War (temp name) was in the 70s, so the timelines wouldn't match if you wanted them to co-exist.

D'oh xD i hoped for the 90s or 80s but it would be still cool for me though

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

A third issue is that your nation is on the southern half of Aurelia, and the closest piece of the Alharun desert is over 15,000 km way by sea.

Or over 7,000 km by air.

I will ignore the fact you're not technically on the map yet, as O has done everything to make it canon but publish an updated map. I don't see how it is feasible for your country in the 90s to be able to consistently fly/sail to the Alharun deserts as well as fight a terrorist organisation.

Here it's kinda weird .-. i mean:
I don't see how it is feasible for your country in the 90s to be able to consistently fly/sail to the Alharun deserts

Why i should fly/sail to the Alharun deserts in the 90s? .o. i never said that i would have partecipated to the Alharu War, given the fact that Anatea was / is pretty isolationist other than being mostly a pacific country 😮 Also i never specified that the war should be absolutely set in the desert x'D

as well as fight a terrorist organisation.

Well, using some examples, Italy was/is capable of transport troops over its borders, given the fact that was involved in the Somali Civil war, current Afghanistan War and even the Second Gulf War 😮 in the end my nation GDP is super similiar to the italian one, so i have the funds to being able to carry on military operations by sea/land/air almost anywhere in the wurld (of course places like Europa or Argis would be kinda hard to reach logistically, and like only one/two medium size military campaigns at the time). Even Portugal or other minor nations are still partecipating in mission at long distances around the wurld 😮

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

The only thing there is Rihan's corpse which isn't being used for anything as far as I'm aware. Less of an issue and more of an observation, if you want your terrorist organisation to have a specific ideology to hide behind, Continentalism might work with their whole anti-imperialist identity as it's main goal is to be a force to counteract the growing neo-colonialism and imperialism of Argis and Europan nations into Alharu and Aurelia.

Oh, nice head up about Rihan, i could use it  and about continentalism, yeah when Mauridiviah asked me if it was continentalism i googled it up and confirmed it was x'D so about that we're oke x''D

 

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

To be honest, my biggest issue with this is that you feel as though you need to repeat your nation's actions from a previous group here. Why not experiment with new alternatives you never could in your old region? Or a new pathway to the same results if you require them to have the same conclusion. Just my own thoughts though.
 

In realty i literally changed almost everything about this rp for adapt it to Eurth's standards :0 for example in my ex region it was just a stupid anarchic terrorist organization with almost a pathetic ideology without basics, here instead i'm trying to create a good and characterized faction that is not the same "terrorist group" clichè (even because here we have high standards thank godness, there it was like "you want to do that? sure, we don't care"). Also in my ex region it was randomly spread around the wurld and it was born from literally nothing, here instead is just confined to Alharu and it was created after a war between some minor xenophobic nations, so they're justified about why they have some important equipment, they're numerous and even organized. I could fight instead of a terrorist group another nation,maybe a rogue one, problem is that i would be stuck in a longer war that Anatea wouldn't fight, given the fact that would be barely justified and also that would prevent other people from joining, cause they wouldn't care about a fight between 2 nations, instead a terrorist group is a severe threat to everyone :0

On 7/30/2020 at 11:21 PM, Metztlitlaca said:

I will ignore the fact you're not technically on the map yet, as O has done everything to make it canon but publish an updated map.

i'm canonically on the map of Eurth :c

Edited June 30 by Anatea
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[Xio]

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Also i never specified that the war should be absolutely set in the desert

Ah, my bad, I was basing my critique off the original post you made on the discord regarding central Alharu, so I assumed it would of been the same case on this draft as well. Ignore what I said about distance if that is the case, although I was certainly intrigued when you mentioned central Alharu in your original post.

[Anatea]

7 hours ago, Metztlitlaca said:

Ah, my bad, I was basing my critique off the original post you made on the discord regarding central Alharu, so I assumed it would of been the same case on this draft as well. Ignore what I said about distance if that is the case, although I was certainly intrigued when you mentioned central Alharu in your original post.

No worries :'D well, it could be even northern Alharu or south, it's still to define

[Iverica]

First: What am I doing here?

• I'm happy to participate in counter-terror ops.

Second: The Where Question

• I'm also up for discussing location. It seems like most of the discussion above^^ is geared towards establishing a where. While Alharu could certainly work, would @Anatea be willing to experiment first with a locale closer to home? Perhaps if this is questionable to others' lore percpetions, maybe we can start in or near Anatea or Iverica.
• Also: if we get participants for this OOC planning, perhaps one or two would be willing to "host" an opportunity and volunteer a province where we can all have the shooty bang party.

Third: Justification/Casus

• I see Anatea has already given a pitch for the history, I am game to work with that if we find a suitable host and a logic to connect our involvements.
• Iverica or its sister states would be willing to provide a setting for this. We'd just have to set up a reason for Anatea and any other participants to be there. Given how int'l trade works--this should be as easy as having economic assets in the AO or having a vested interest in the hosts policy direction.

[Anatea]

15 hours ago, Iverica said:

First: What am I doing here?

• I'm happy to participate in counter-terror ops.

Second: The Where Question

• I'm also up for discussing location. It seems like most of the discussion above^^ is geared towards establishing a where. While Alharu could certainly work, would @Anatea be willing to experiment first with a locale closer to home? Perhaps if this is questionable to others' lore percpetions, maybe we can start in or near Anatea or Iverica.
• Also: if we get participants for this OOC planning, perhaps one or two would be willing to "host" an opportunity and volunteer a province where we can all have the shooty bang party.

Third: Justification/Casus

• I see Anatea has already given a pitch for the history, I am game to work with that if we find a suitable host and a logic to connect our involvements.
• Iverica or its sister states would be willing to provide a setting for this. We'd just have to set up a reason for Anatea and any other participants to be there. Given how int'l trade works--this should be as easy as having economic assets in the AO or having a vested interest in the hosts policy direction.

Yeayyy, glad to have you onboard!

About the Where point i'd be glad to start even in Aurelia, buuuut the thing is that Alharu is a nice central continent for the western part of the Wurld, so i think that from there we can expand the terrorist attacks even to those that are in Argis, Alharu & Aurelia 😮 if the terrorist group is in Aurelia the entire rp would be relegated only in Aurelia and South Alharu, also the nations pretty far away (using an example, Prymont) would have sliiight reasons to join the rp 😮

About the shooty bang party the first area that will be attacked will be a city in Anatea, just to begin x'D then it's up to you if you want a terrorist attack in your country or nope  we can always rp like unknown hostile vehicles gathering outside the borders of the partecipant's nations in case you want to be "involved" without reporting too many damages 

About Justification/Casus good point there  about Anatea, it will be involved due to the real organization behind the terrorist group that wants to attack Anatea for a reason that i can't spoil right now x'D but we can find a solution pretty soon to that thing

 

 

[Faramount]

Faramount is a somewhat politically unstable nation in Alharu, so I could certainly see this terrorist group having some operations there. They might even control some territory in the Northeast of the nation. And the Faramontese government would obviously hate them (simply for contesting its authority), though it wouldn't have the ability to successfully suppress them. 

[Anatea]

1 hour ago, Faramount said:

Faramount is a somewhat politically unstable nation in Alharu, so I could certainly see this terrorist group having some operations there. They might even control some territory in the Northeast of the nation. And the Faramontese government would obviously hate them (simply for contesting its authority), though it wouldn't have the ability to successfully suppress them. 

that would be a good setting, and even a valid reason for you to join  ( and even develop some relations with Anatea and the anti-terrorist force during the rp :D)