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Map Request by Eskeocha

Nation in Eurth: Eskeocha

Flag: (I apologize for the image size, I do not know how to change it)



Capital name: Cranarie

Capital location: (Please see star on claim request image)

Factbook link: https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Eskeocha

Newsroom link:

Culture: The two central cultures are Eskeok (The Eskeocha Tribe) and Ahranaian (We have agreed that he would be a former colonizer, but are still working out details).  Eskeok is akin to Alaskan first-nation, and please refer to Ahrana for Ahranaian.

Climate: Eskeocha is a Sup-Arctic, cold weather climate.  It has its fair share of mountains and forests and rivers, though they are all extremely cold weather, often hitting 0 farenheit in the winters and no more than 60 farenheit at highest in the summers.  For more information, see the climate information of real world Alaska as a comparison.

Location: This is the location I would like to request.  I know it is quite large and it has a water passage going right through it, but the intention of my country is to be vast with very little population and tons of beauty.  As well, the water passage is essential to my nation's setup as it exists now.  I understand if these things are not entirely feasible, I would really like them if they could at all be a reality.  I chose a lesser populated area in case that helps ease conflict in the decision.


History: Before the arrival of settlers and traders in the eastern region, the land was inhabited solely by the Eskeocha tribe, a group of natives who lived in pockets around the region's passage, the mountains, and the temperate rainforest. Due to the terrain being difficult to navigate in many locations, the tribe developed small settlements that acted like cities. These cities would interact infrequently, although they would navigate their way to each other just often enough to trade, communicate, celebrate, and continue to share a single culture.

Settlers from Ahrana would eventually arrive and interacted relatively frequently with the members of the Eskeocha tribe. This encouraged both the settlers to learn Eskeok, the local language, and for tribe members to learn outside languages such as English. The two groups were generally kind to each other, as the mountainous and difficult to traverse land gave them more reason to work together than apart. This cultural behavior developed and fostered relationships and appreciations over time, such as for local art and wildlife. This continued for as long as the two groups lived in this style with limited help from this outside world.

In the 1960s, Ahrana had reason to end their involvement with Eskeocha. The land was not gaining them any profits - there were periods in which they were losing money supporting the settlers of the territory - and the nation needed to focus on other things. Due to events, the nation decided it was no longer sensible to hold on to the territory, and in February of 1964, they released the land to the settlers of the region.

The settlers managed to survive on their own quite successfully over the year, but separation from each other made land disputes and trading somewhat of a challenge. In late 1964, leaders from the settlements and the tribe gathered together and agreed on the formation of a new nation, a confederacy of regions that would work together to thrive in the land. By April of 1965, the group had come up with an agreement and drafted a loose constitution of confederacy, officially recognizing the land as a new nation. They called this land Eskeocha, after the tribe that had first lived in the land. They continue to live as one nation, extremely large, yet miniscule in population.



Population: [SMALL] [0]; 1,142,939 citizens

GDP: [SMALL] [0]; 7,410 GDP (I'm not good with economics, I don't know numbers or units for this)

Land Area: [VERY HIGH] [4]; As big as possible please, Eskeocha is supposed to be absolutely massive with a tiny population, just like Alaska.


Thank you, and I hope this is an acceptable claim! 

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Congratulations @Eskeocha on your graduation through persistence and effort.

The culture you describe is a little bit vague ("Alaskan") but we can certainly work on collecting more details. From what I imagine the area looks like, it'd be a good place for historical settlements of whale hunters and other large marine mammals.

The climate would fit the region. The most recent climate map shows a warm and cold current splitting off your east coast. The latest map rework will include islands towards the east as well.

The land area you selected for your stats is [4] "very large" . That'd be ±350.000 km2. Following our tutorial for Google Earth, I calculated the area you drew is ±470.000 km2. You can see it in this screenshot.

Eskeocha at 470.000 km2

To follow the same rules for everyone, we'll need to reduce the area to 3/4 the current size. This could be achieved by making two changes:

  • Follow the western mountains as border. This would preserve Mt Caskada, but put Abasol outside the area. This saves ±40.000 km2.
  • Redrawing the NE border along the upper course of the river towards Mastikan. This has a smaller impact, and allows for future expansion opportunities. This saves ±60.000 km2.

Eskeocha reduced to fit 350.000 km2

It would seem reasonable to subtract the Cranarie Passage from the land area. This saves ±35.000 km2. I will require a change to the topography. Certainly not impossible, just a bit more work. But... it would also create a loophole of requesting larger land areas by adding lakes and subtracting their area. For this reason I'd rather not subtract it from the total area. The above two changes should be enough.

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Hi @Orioni,

Thank you so much for your feedback.

To clarify what I meant by Alaskan, my culture is partly inspired by first nation natives, particularly the Tlingit.  There are some changes that will be introduced as I am worldbuilding and roleplay, but they are my intended bouncing off point.  I hope that works for you.

I knew my nation was quite large, I am not so talented with geographical software, so I had no idea how to ensure I would not go over 350,000.  Thank you for letting me know.

Regarding the changes you brought forward, I made some adjustments of my own I wanted to run by you.  This is largely because, while I like many of the ideas you brought forth, I have a few concerns regarding the overall shape of my nation and some features that I have been intending to make use of:

  • I am totally open to removing the northern region and instead having the river follow the border towards Mastikan.  I think that is equally as good, I just started further north arbitrarily.  
  • Regarding the Mountains and Mt. Caskada, would it be possible instead to have the border go further south and I will take the lower mountain range instead?  I can move Caskada there with no problem, and I would be able to preserve Abasol.  Part of the idea I had for Abasol was that it would be a city built around an old Christian settlement from the original expansion of the religion westward.  If it is an issue of coastline, please let me know.
  • Cranarie Passage is my biggest concern, as it is very significantly how I have shaped my nation for a long time, even before I arrived in Eurth.  Is it at all possible to keep it?  Removing it from my nation would require a lot of worldbuilding upheaval and changing that I am not prepared for.  If this is absolutely off the table, I understand, it will, however, take me a long time to figure out how to solve this, as it promotes many internal challenges regarding how my nation is currently set up.

I have attached a picture below, overlapping my original submission. The old pieces I am removing are crossed out in purple, and the long purple line is my new border suggestion.  Please let my know if there is a specific problem with Cranarie Passage, or if it was just a suggestion to fix land size.  I am ok with going under 350,000 a bit if it means keeping the passage.


Thank you again!



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Hello Orioni,

After the discussions on the claim and the feedback, as well as a little clarification, I believe I have figured out what the map would look like.  I have created two different maps and would like to know what you think.

You will notice there is a new area called the Eskeok National Rainforest on the maps.  This is not meant to be something I want on the international map or anything, I just figured it would be useful to include as a reference since it is a vast Temperate Rainforest that is heavily impacted by the climate.

Here is the first map, which is based on your redesigns.  If this is the one we use, this is where I would like to put Abasol.  As well, I changed the shape of the passage a bit to look more realistic, if it is ok with you.  I do know you will probably change it a bunch to make it look real as well.


I also put together this map below, which follows the coast, my suggestion.  I would prefer to use this map, though I am ok if we use the first one.  I just think the borders and nation shape look cleaner here.  This would move Mt. Caskada.Eskeocha_Land_Claim_Coast.png

If either of these are over 350,000, please trim what you need to get to the limit.  I would just really like to include at least one of the two mountain ranges.

Thank you again, and please let me know if either of the two maps works for you!



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