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On the topic of the Wiki Cleanup, I wanted to share two things.

Firstly I think the names of certain articles about Eurth in general should be changed where names like List of Spoken Languages on Eurth and Capital Punishment on Eurth be changed to List of Spoken Languages (Eurth) and Capital Punishment (Eurth) since real-life wiki articles aren't titled Capital Punishment on Earth. 

Secondly is to let everyone know that Rihan's work on the iiwiki does go deeper than expected as I had a no-wave flag on my iiwiki page as soon as I had the first chance to make one, but my Country data Template still had the wave flag as it was made by Rihan. So whenever I used the {{flag|Shffahkia}} command I would get my wave flag. To make sure your flag isn't like this check it by searching: Template:Country data Country_Name

And if you don't have this template made you can use this to make one: 


{{ {{{1<noinclude>|country showdata</noinclude>}}}
| alias = Country_Name
| flag alias =  File_Name
| size = {{{size|}}}
| name = {{{name|}}}


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On 4/20/2020 at 2:21 AM, Shffahkia said:

Firstly I think the names of certain articles about Eurth in general should be changed where names like List of Spoken Languages on Eurth and Capital Punishment on Eurth be changed to List of Spoken Languages (Eurth) and Capital Punishment (Eurth) since real-life wiki articles aren't titled Capital Punishment on Earth. 

Right on! This is exactly what Kylaris did. There's also a lot of good information on that here.

The names are all pretty messy, so I'll probably make a standalone post explaining all the moves and changes.

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4 hours ago, Andalla said:

The names are all pretty messy, so I'll probably make a standalone post explaining all the moves and changes.

Each pages has a "move" button. Once we agree on a format, the execution is rather easy. It also adds a redirect, so you don't actually have to edit any other incoming links.

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Just saw this topic, didn't even know it was a thing and was sort of doing it already!


First, when it comes to article names, from what I've read, Wikipedia only ever capitalizes proper nouns, acronyms, and the first word in an article. So, "List of Spoken Languages on Eurth" would be "List of spoken language on Eurth".

Similarly, when talking about something about a nation, i.e. a military, currency, language of a nation, the proper way to name the article would be "Currency of the United States of America" or something similar. For this reason, the previously mentioned article would go from "List of spoken languages on Eurth" to "List of spoken languages of Eurth".

That being said, I do like @Shffahkia's suggestion to just have Eurth be in parentheses.


Second, I've already made an Alharu category for articles and categories that would be under it. Should we go ahead and make a category for every continent, and put it under Eurth? Every article for the region would still have the "Eurth" category, but it would also have the "Europa" or "Alharu" or "Thalassa" category if it also related to those continents.


Third, I can go through pretty much all of the articles with the Europa category and add the Eurth category to them, as well as double check that they actually are in Europa or not. Would this be alright? Would be a manual fix but not too difficult, just tedious.

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Some more things that I'd like to add:

  • Figure out what is and isn't canon about the Sanar system, and make separate articles for all of the astrological bodies, instead of just having everything link to the Eurth page.
  • Going through each of the organizations of Eurth and ensuring that they actually have more than just an infobox (or marking them for deletion if they're deemed no longer necessary).
  • Ensuring that all files related to Eurth actually have the Eurth category (and or switching them from the Europa category to Eurth).
  • Standardize some of the older articles, such as Armed Forces or List of freedom indices, to have them better match some Wikipedia counterparts. i.e. List of countries by number of military and paramilitary personnel / Military and List of freedom indices
  • Ensure all IIWiki articles about Eurth include the "Region icon Eurth" template.
  • Make articles for each of the major oceans, and perhaps some of the major seas as well.
  • Change the main Eurth article to more closely match the Wikipedia Earth article.

These are just a few more examples off the top of my head. What do you guys think about these?

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Today I replaced [[Category:Europa]] with [[Category:Eurth]] for all subcategories, images and redirects (±200 pages). If the page already includes {{Eurth}} you don't need to add the [[Category:Eurth]] since the infobox template already includes this. But, of course, not all pages need to include the templates.

I also embedded {{Eurth}} into {{Europa}} so we only have to maintain 1 regional infobox. The long-term goal is replacing all {{Europa}} with {{Eurth}}. Here's a list of pages where this still needs to be replaced. (±150 pages)

Of course, you can kill two birds with one stone. While fixing the first list, also making the change to fix the second.

Edit: all of the above has been taken care of. Took about 2 hours to push through it. That's that.

Edit 2: And while I was at it, I also untangled the spaghetti mess that was [[Europa]] and [[Europa (continent)]]. From now on we're only using the short version [[Europa]].

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I want to talk about the big table of nations. The one you can find on https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Eurth#Countries

Current situation

Right now, our country tables includes 4 columns with country information:

  • Name
  • Formal name(s)
  • Capital
  • Short description


Two points I want to make. Feel free to reply to each of them separately.

(1) Adding government types

A little while ago, sometime in early 2020, I added the government type to that last column. Not yet for every nation. But a good 50% is taken care of. Mostly I went through the forum factbooks to find out more about former nations. If your government description is off, feel free to correct this. For the government types I had a look at some other lists that are available:

Moving the short description to individual country pages saves us some space. That helps display all information on one single line, in contrast to some longer rows. For example:

  • 4 lines for Adaptus, Afropa, Beleareas, Faramount, Mauridiviah, Shffahkia
  • 4 lines for Magnaeus
  • 6 lines for Derthalen


(2) Considering additional columns

Moving the formal name(s) to the nation detail page gives us some extra horizontal space to use. We could use this extra space that to display more relevant information. Some possible additions could, sorted from most to least occurring:

  1. Population. One element of the points system. Recurring in most other lists. Already exists for Eurth but on a separate page. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/List_of_countries_on_Eurth_by_population
  2. GDP per capita in NS$. Another element of the points system. We can be more upfront about this by showing the number directly.
  3. Head of state / government. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/List_of_current_heads_of_state_and_government_in_Eurth
  4. Continent. Optional since this same information is already displayed in our box at the bottom.
  5. Area in km^2. Also optional. The third element of the points system. The existing table is already fairly complex as it is. https://iiwiki.us/wiki/List_of_countries_on_Eurth_by_area

Any thoughts or ideas?

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Three weeks later, without objections or feedback. I'll plan some time to execute my above suggestions. This will take some time because the table contains circa 100 rows. The easiest change is dividing the table into columns with:

  1. Name
  2. Capital
  3. Population (taken from https://iiwiki.us/wiki/List_of_countries_on_Eurth_by_population )
  4. Continent (including 2 labels for our transcontinental countries @Iverica and @Variota)
  5. Government type

Relevant information included in the columns "Formal name(s)" and "Short description" will be copied over to individual country pages. This means no information is lost.

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Just a quick note that I've been making good progress on cleaning up the countries table.


Last thing to modify is adding the population date. There won't be enough horizontal space to also add the head(s) of state/government.

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🗺️ Took a first stab at adding some basic maps to our timeline. No lines or borders. Only labels. The idea behind is this might help explain the changes through time.


ℹ️ Feel free to edit and replace. Use the "Upload a new version of this file" feature. Assistance will be given if you don't know how this works

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ℹ️ Manually cleaned up all ±60-ish articles with external links pointing them to the HTTPS version of our website. Each of these edits includes a comment that explains this. No insecure HTTP links remain. Everyone's privacy will be a tiny bit better.


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