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There are officers and others within the Imperium that are not enthused with the new direction that Emperor Ji'Mar is taking them. This will be a story concerning such, of which will have repercussions in several ongoing works, such as;

The Dragon Takes Flight 

Cussian Humanitarian Coalition

Since one of these stories is not mine, it is fair to offer a notice to its source @Iverica and to my active neighbor and resident of the Occident, @Tagmatium Rules

Any sort of discussion or implementation of ideas to Blood & Honey, is best set to task here.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

What might it be reasonable for Tagmatine intelligence to know about First Princess Kira'Karn?

Well if I had a saber rattling next door neighbor slash ally, it would be prudent to known about the royal family, especially if one had left during a time of calamity, concerning the Camberrian crisis that had occured. Also, if some of them started to go missing or conveniently dying off right before the collapse.

Furthermore, she carries the last name of the previous Emperor, her right of succession has been denied by the usurper. Now as to why the TIN would care overall, is for any activity that could threaten the current state of said next door neighbor, the Northern territories, and or the Occident on the whole. 

Also its mostly because Kaorin views the Ahromanians as both a worthwhile ally and a needed presence. There had been a certain level of stability to the Imperium by maintaining cordial relations that have since gone off the rails so to speak. If the TIN are thus notified, and via them, those higher up in power are aware of it, then it will be less of a sudden impact for the effort being undertaken. Shocking the southern powerbase is not a goal the faction that Kaorin represents, desires.

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14 hours ago, Seylos said:

How will this affect the continuing evacuation?

Well, the faction that represents the First Princess will want to see an orderly and probably more humane approach to ridding the northern territories of the Christian minorities, thus they will be more amicable to evacuation forces then otherwise. At the moment, you've a grudgingly accepted presence, that could turn favorable should the FP faction win the day so to speak.

  • 5 weeks later...
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How long would it take for the news of Ji'Mar's assassination to get beyond the Haru borders? Would Kaorin and her plotters try to stop the news from getting out, or would they spread it themselves?

I doubt much of the rest of Eurth would mourn the death of Ji'Mar and there's not enough of a Divine Right faction anywhere that might be shocked at the murder of a ruling monarch. I suppose it depends on how the plotters capitalise on the news, really. Some ways might play better with the outside wurld than the Haru themselves.

Did the Haru see Ji'Mar as a strong and able leader or as someone who was doing a lot of damage to their standing in the wurld? Finally defeating the Glorious Dominate would certainly win a lot of points within the Sovereign Imperium but almost everything else has pretty much turned every other nation away from the Haru. All they would have had to have done was frame the invasion in terms of a humanitarian mission, at least to begin with, and they would probably have only have had Tagmatium getting wary about them :P

As a (another) question, what had the plotters been planning to do with Ji'Mar, once they'd taken him captive, if they were always planning on replacing him with Kira'Karn? A former ruling monarch would be pretty dangerous to the new regime, even if he ended up in some inaccessible or inescapable prison. There'd be plots to free him and restore him to his old throne. Unless there's a way to make him ineligible for the throne? That sort of thing has never stopped people before, however.

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Kaorin has command of the North, one of the last active orders given by Ji'Mar, since those whom serve her are the ones that killed him, news will be slow to hit the rest of the imperium, let alone royalist factions. With the council moving in the right direction, Kira'Karn can take the throne with any number of reasons given to the lack of Ji'Mar's presence.

As to how he was seen, the old families of a few particular houses saw him as a way to extract revenge on the age old enemy, but were not seeing the bigger picture. There was and is tension between these old bloodlines and the newer lines and citizenry. The minor houses and those who've adapted see themselves as sharing a symbiotic relationship with the citizenry, where as Ji'Mar's supporters view themselves as above and beyond said citizenry.

This has led to tensions as they are, and his choice of overruling senior military staff concerning the North has led to a ripple of disloyalty as it were through the rank and file, as well as those near the top. Coupled with the Imperium being focused upon in a vastly negative fashion by most of the world doesnt help matters.

In terms of what might have been, Ji'Mar would have been sent to Secundus, a southern region that once held the mad empress Tsani, until either he could be executed or natural causes would have taken place.

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5 minutes ago, Haruspex said:

Kaorin has command of the North, one of the last active orders given by Ji'Mar, since those whom serve her are the ones that killed him, news will be slow to hit the rest of the imperium, let alone royalist factions. With the council moving in the right direction, Kira'Karn can take the throne with any number of reasons given to the lack of Ji'Mar's presence.

As to how he was seen, the old families of a few particular houses saw him as a way to extract revenge on the age old enemy, but were not seeing the bigger picture. There was and is tension between these old bloodlines and the newer lines and citizenry. The minor houses and those who've adapted see themselves as sharing a symbiotic relationship with the citizenry, where as Ji'Mar's supporters view themselves as above and beyond said citizenry.

This has led to tensions as they are, and his choice of overruling senior military staff concerning the North has led to a ripple of disloyalty as it were through the rank and file, as well as those near the top. Coupled with the Imperium being focused upon in a vastly negative fashion by most of the world doesnt help matters.

In terms of what might have been, Ji'Mar would have been sent to Secundus, a southern region that once held the mad empress Tsani, until either he could be executed or natural causes would have taken place.

So, pretty much if he'd not been shot in the face now as part of this plot, he was unlikely to have lasted all that much longer after finalising the conquest of the Glorious Dominate, since most of everyone else would have realised that he'd almost completely isolated the Sovereign Imperium?

Would Kaorin's faction pass along knowledge of the assassination to their contacts in my intelligence agency or would they rather wait until all of their plans are in place and can break the news at their own pace?

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Yes that is correct concerning the political ramifications of Ji'Mar's actions. A glorious start, and a terrible finish. One that will leave last repercussions upon the Haru citizenry.

I would assume that the TIN would be kept updated, while there probably wasnt an observer at the checkpoint, the nature of forces moving oddly might be of concern, the flow of communications being dampened could also crop up as unusual, and of course activity in Ulusk and Ttoile being fairly odd as Department B legionary and officers are being either arrested or outright eliminated.

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8 minutes ago, Haruspex said:

Yes that is correct concerning the political ramifications of Ji'Mar's actions. A glorious start, and a terrible finish. One that will leave last repercussions upon the Haru citizenry.

I would assume that the TIN would be kept updated, while there probably wasnt an observer at the checkpoint, the nature of forces moving oddly might be of concern, the flow of communications being dampened could also crop up as unusual, and of course activity in Ulusk and Ttoile being fairly odd as Department B legionary and officers are being either arrested or outright eliminated.

Fair.

I imagine they'll be paying the situation close attention but they won't know the truth of the matter until the plotters confirm it.

Presumably they'd move the Tagmata observers out of the way before they outright shot anyone or anything.

Perhaps we can discuss the possibility of my next post or part of my next post being from the point of view of a Tagmatine observer seeing parts of the coup unfold in front of them? We can take that to Discord, although I can't talk about it right now, as I'm on kind of an internet embargo because I don't want to see the results of the British election until tomorrow morning :P

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