help [Request] Changes to Bulgenstaz

[Kacheru]

This post comes from a place of considerable thought, and I think it's time I at least ask for permission to do it.

The fact of the matter is, Bulgenstaz is flawed. Not flawed in that I regret government choices or economic situation, but more in how I have handled my nation's culture, history, traditions, etc. I came in here with a wild idea about a weird place called "Bulgenstaz": home to a socialist democracy of Slavic/Vietnamese islanders. Looking back, however, I feel as though I've worked myself into a bit of a cultural hole, as I just don't see these plans making sense in the long-term.

I made some regrettable choices, and I would like to be able to modify them in a positive and thoughtful manner.

To begin, I want to talk about the new climate map and how it has influenced my decision: it has been a sort of "tipping point" as far as my satisfaction with my nation's lore. Frankly, it's a little strange for Vietnamese slavs to exist in a place without jungles. I would like to be able to re-establish my people as simply khmer people who derived themselves from the ancient Marenai. In my current (and now long-standing) opinion the slavic island nation concept seems pretty dumb in retrospect, and combining it with Vietnamese/Indonesian else just is too chaotic.

So I guess the central theme here is this: I would like my people to instead be based linguistically and ethnically based on the khmer, while maintaining a savanna origin similar to many African cultures and some parts of Mesoamerica. I want to formally ditch my slavic roots, as I think it does not work in the context of a culture. Obviously being a savanna-based nation there would likely still have been a colonizer, but I think Dniester has proven to be too incapable as a country for it to be logically justified. If the colonization of my country after this change is undesirable, however, I am content with them having always been a sovereign nation. I would like to add: I am aware this would require a lot of work to redo, especially for other people, but I am willing to take it on as I reedit my nation's people and small cities (including possibly the nation name and capitol (yikes)) to fit my new precedent. This is why I would like to put this request into OOC: as a forum for discussing the transformation, the limits at which such a transformation would occur, the feedback of other nations with how to best immerse "Bulgenstaz" into Eurth again, and (of course) some level of approval of our lovely moderation team.

Please note: all/almost all my planned changes WILL NOT alter any of my pre-existing posts/relationships (with the exception of Dniester, who no longer posts here), I have full intent to stay in ICEB, retain my current foreign relations, etc. What I'm asking is for a rebranding of Bulgenstaz as it is currently known (if it even remains Bulgenstaz, who knows 😛). This process would not be instantaneous, but I will do my best to get the bulk of the transformation done quickly so as to not interfere with other people's posts.

Thank you very much for your time.

[Tagmatium Rules]

Good luck, man.

It seems like a good idea but also a lot of hard work!

[Variota]

The issue with changes is that, when they go too deep, it essentially becomes a rewrite/do-over which we tend to irk away from. However, I think one of the things that benefit you, in regards to it being accepted, is that, while it goes deep, you're not moving locations nor changing the general geopolitical situation. Even more so, you're moving away from a culture that's generally assigned/intended/understood to come from a different area towards one that's arguably makes more sense (I do see Afro-Semitic Polynesian on the culture map from way back for that area but I'm not entire sure what that would entail). You could probably ask if your neighbors are okay with it but seeing as it should be a relatively straight-forward culture change, I can't see a blatant issue they could have beyond needing to change the Bulgenstazian minority in their nation if they have them.

So, here's the thing though as I see it: We, as mods, would need to see the changes so that you're not suddenly pulling some creative writing, trying to justify you having the industrial revolution 150 years before everyone else or some such because the small size of your people and your culture should enable it. The easiest workable way to do this would be, as far as I can think it up within a couple of minutes, for you to make a google document where you list the things you want to change. Could be something as simple as listing the current situation and what you want to change it to. General culture, history bits, city names, etc.

That way, once you feel confident that you've worked out all the changes you want to do, we can look it over in one go, agree or discuss changes or disagree, and have it over in one smooth go.

[Kacheru]

2 hours ago, Variota said:

The easiest workable way to do this would be, as far as I can think it up within a couple of minutes, for you to make a google document where you list the things you want to change. Could be something as simple as listing the current situation and what you want to change it to. General culture, history bits, city names, etc.

This is a great idea. I will begin working out a document going over intended changes. I will also put less important ones as "optional" to indicate they aren't neccesary, but more of a preferential move. My goal in my doing this is to be as fair and considerate as possible; any violation of RP rules is the last thing I want.

The feedback is really appreciated. Thanks, guys.

[Kacheru]

This is the link to the document for all those who wish to look at the planned revisions. Any concerns/discussion can be made either here, or in pms on site/discord.

Neo-Bulgenstaz, AKA Batengdei

Thank you for your time.

 

Also, I guess a question also remains as to the future of my username. It's currently "Bulgenstaz" but I am unable to change it myself. I would ideally like to make the transition smooth, so is there a process for modifying it to the new name?

Edited October 28, 2019 by Bulgenstaz (see edit history)

[Iverica]

Changing usernames would be under @Orioni's power. Since I don't really see any unaddressed issues pertaining to the renaming itself, I think this can be done as soon as O sees this.

[Tagmatium Rules]

57 minutes ago, Bulgenstaz said:

This is the link to the document for all those who wish to look at the planned revisions. Any concerns/discussion can be made either here, or in pms on site/discord.

Neo-Bulgenstaz, AKA Batengdei

Thank you for your time.

 

Also, I guess a question also remains as to the future of my username. It's currently "Bulgenstaz" but I am unable to change it myself. I would ideally like to make the transition smooth, so is there a process for modifying it to the new name?

Do you want us to refer to you as that from here on in?

I can edit older posts.

[Kacheru]

10 hours ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

Do you want us to refer to you as that from here on in?

I can edit older posts.

Ideally, yes! This is my new nation name, it's accurate to what I want. This is mostly important especially in RP-related posts. It doesn't mean you have to go back into all your old posts and look for things referencing Bulgenstaz (if you don't want to), but I would like to begin standardizing the use of "Batengdei". I will be changing my discord nickname accordingly. I think the name has a generally more light feel to it and is less harsh, which matches my intended national aesthetic, if that makes any sense.

[Tagmatium Rules]

5 hours ago, Bulgenstaz said:

Ideally, yes! This is my new nation name, it's accurate to what I want. This is mostly important especially in RP-related posts. It doesn't mean you have to go back into all your old posts and look for things referencing Bulgenstaz (if you don't want to), but I would like to begin standardizing the use of "Batengdei". I will be changing my discord nickname accordingly. I think the name has a generally more light feel to it and is less harsh, which matches my intended national aesthetic, if that makes any sense.

And you won't have to change your Discord name for Halloween either

🦇engdai!

[Orioni]

On 10/28/2019 at 3:19 PM, Iverica said:

Changing usernames would be under @Orioni's power. Since I don't really see any unaddressed issues pertaining to the renaming itself, I think this can be done as soon as O sees this.

@Bulgenstaz Are you still in the market for renaming your account? Yes/no.

[Kacheru]

36 minutes ago, Orioni said:

@Bulgenstaz Are you still in the market for renaming your account? Yes/no.

If possible, that would be nice. People are (and I don't blame them at all) sometimes getting confused about the Batengdei vs. Batengdai, so having it be Batengdei on the forums could save a multitude of headaches. Of course, if this is a complicated procedure, then don't do it, I'll make do without. Thanks so much.

[Orioni]

@Batengdei Not a problem. Taken care of. You may need to log out-and-in again.