awaiting rp Expansion Selayar

[Selayar]

As some of you might know, I have decided to start a clean slate because I find that the previous idea of Selayar is unworkable on my end. So i'm moving map spot to better fit my new idea for this country, and here's my new form:

Nation in Europa: Selayar

Flag: 

Capital name: Wanaperaʻa

Capital location: In the gulf area (see the map of claim)

Factbook link: https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Selayar

Newsroom link: 

 

Culture: Insular Southeast Asia (Austronesia) without Indian influence along with pseudo-Polynesia linguistic influence and a mix of other Asian cultures. It will be a matrilineal rice-growing riverine culture in the lowland. It will also be multiethnics so there will be some variations present. I'm also planning to construct an entire language family that might be indigenous to the area around Manamana Bay.

Climate: Tropical rainforest (Af) with pockets of tropical monsoon (Am)

Location: Northeast Aurelia, near the Manamana Canal on the southern coast of Manamana Bay

Spoiler

 

Also, i'm requesting for naming the mountain east of my territory if possible

 

History: The Manamanan culture arose around the 3rd century BC, with the domestication of animals and cereals, most importantly rice (or a local variety thereof) around present-day Mananaman canal (parallel to Neolithic China). This later followed by other cultures that led to the creation of kingdoms (and most of the time queendoms due to the matrilineal culture) by 1st century BCE. The following period, around 6th century CE saw the breakup of the centralised state as it splintered into small queendoms or chiefdoms, and regression of culture and technology. Only in the 14th century CE did the First Reyan Empire united what is now the territory of modern Selayar. The Second Empire follows as it reached its territorial height in 17th or 18th century, shortly before meeting with the 'foreign' colonies in Shffahkia (?), and starts the 'Contact Period'. A now-famous explorer reached the depth of the Empire's territory and recorded stories that now is well-known (?). A vassal kingdom in the heartland of the Empire rebelled and won control of Selayar, and paved the way for the modern state of Selayar as it absorbs more and more foreign influences. A revolution at the end of 19th century saw the establishment of constitutional monarchy that lasted till this very day.

 

With this request, i will also request the removal of my old spot in the islands east of Giokto. There might be a possibility of holding Taiwan-Chinese like RP there, but in the meantime, it'll be better for it to be removed before i can run such a roleplay. And thanks before! If i missed anything, please tell me and i will fix it as soon as possible.

Edited May 11, 2019 by Selayar
Title appropriately edited (see edit history)

[Tagmatium Rules]

5 hours ago, Rihan said:

I am not going to lie: I am biased but I would love to have this come to pass as it would finally mean, eventually, that I would be sharing a border with someone LOL.

There's still a bit of space between the pair of you...

[Mito]

51 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

There's still a bit of space between the pair of you...

Not after Enolia

Edited April 25, 2019 by Shffahkia (see edit history)

[Tagmatium Rules]

2 hours ago, Shffahkia said:

Not after Enolia

I thought it was to the east?

[Mito]

52 minutes ago, Tagmatium Rules said:

I thought it was to the east?

Oh, for some reason I, falsely, remembered that Enolia was that river to their east. You win this round! 

[Selayar]

11 hours ago, Rihan said:

For the moment...but that can easily be changed.

That could certainly be arranged

[Gallambria]

Taking into consideration the map of cultural regions that's in the works (i.e mapping out how the wurld's cultures have spread) - taking a "polynesian" culture doesn't really work.

Where you're look at (referencing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385538600244215808/467227098004586496/south_culture_ideas_gall.png) - You would be looking at a indo-asian mix w/ new-age asian.

[Selayar]

3 hours ago, Gallambria said:

Taking into consideration the map of cultural regions that's in the works (i.e mapping out how the wurld's cultures have spread) - taking a "polynesian" culture doesn't really work.

Where you're look at (referencing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385538600244215808/467227098004586496/south_culture_ideas_gall.png) - You would be looking at a indo-asian mix w/ new-age asian.

Oh, culturally it will still be your typical Southeast Asian culture plus some Chinese influences. The polynesian bit is just from linguistic perspective, since my conlang is partly based on Polynesian languages. Beside having Polynesian culture in a continent is a bit odd

[Selayar]

Having heard the verdict from the Mods that this should be turned into an expansion RP, and subsequently, this 'new' territory will be marked Reserved until such RP is finished, I want to ask a question. Firstly, this 'starting over' is an ignorant move on my part, and I've been treating that this Reserved territory is the core of my nation instead of the islands. I'll rectify this mistake with the expansion RP, which will be set in the past, and involve a schism, not unlike that of Taiwan and China. Though it will end up in a unified nation. This, in my personal view, will reconcile the mistakes I've made so far, at least ICly.

My question is, while waiting for the RP to be done, which would undoubtedly take a few months at the minimum, is it fine if I RP'd as if my capital and the bulk of the population is already located in Aurelia? To my knowledge, this will be marked Reserved and thus in the map, my nation's core territory would be in the little islands. I will respect the mod teams decision, whatever that will be

[Sunset Sea Islands]

1 hour ago, Selayar said:

My question is, while waiting for the RP to be done, which would undoubtedly take a few months at the minimum, is it fine if I RP'd as if my capital and the bulk of the population is already located in Aurelia?

Hmmm... sounds difficult to me. Sure, your government could claim that the people on the mainland are Selayari citizens, even though they might not be directly under your current control. The government-in-exile or whatever you have planned could also still claim that the capital remains on the mainland, even though it operates off the island. But RPing as if your expansion is already done and then RPing the expansion itself at some later point in time sounds dodgy to me. Pinging @Iverica and @Orioni for future reference.

[Orioni]

Yes, the area can be marked as reserved.

No, switching is not possible, unfortunately.

Expanding into the area is the normal path to follow, same as for everyone else. In April I shared a possible inspiration storyline from RL Indonesia. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48093431

In short: 

• keep the island as a highly developed but also overpopulated area,
• move the capital to the mainland because it has more space to grow.
• RL inspiration:
  • Brasil (1960) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitals_of_Brazil
  • South Korea (2012) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18670195
  • Indonesia (future) https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48093431

Here are some basic ideas you could include in the story:

• explain the problem of overpopulation and/or environmental impact
• lead-up to the decision
• political parties opposed to the move
• maybe a referendum?
• architectural contest (can involve others)
• city layout (since you're quite good with maps)
• budget problems
• etc.

[Selayar]

I've just edited the title accordingly. I'll need to RP on the islands for a while then. If that's so, what should I do with my current news that referenced to the location in the 'Reserved' area? Should I just retcon the story? Or edit it accordingly?

[Sunset Sea Islands]

On 5/11/2019 at 5:44 PM, Selayar said:

If that's so, what should I do with my current news that referenced to the location in the 'Reserved' area? Should I just retcon the story? Or edit it accordingly?

Either works, I'd say. It's up to you.

[Orioni]

Where are we currently with this relocation/expansion?

[Selayar]

23 hours ago, Orioni said:

Where are we currently with this relocation/expansion?

Ah, I'm currently still fleshing out the ideas behind it. Will make an OOC thread as soon as possible. Sorry for the delay!

[Orioni]

Seeing as @Selayar is pouring considerable effort into this reshuffling, I will label the area in question as reserved. This is similar to other areas on the map where players are actively writing their stories but haven't finished yet. It is only fair to clarify this, since it will help future co-players to see which areas will be come unavailable in the future.