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Link to the RP thread, "From Skies to Safety".

Seeing as the RP will soon begin to revolve around an international aviation agreement, and that my actual goal is to get as many nations to participate, planning with other nations is essential for this one. As far as I'm concerned the agreement would be identical to the ICAO, and will also set up the predecessor for a similar organization which will be part of the under-construction Europa UN. I will gladly welcome any comments; I'm rather inexperienced and also can't write so well so any help will be gladly appreciated.


Right now we're only beginning. The year is 1948. Thanks to a small band of corrupt Deltannian airport officials, a loophole was found in the Andallan and Deltannian aviation regulations - one that would take away the rights of operation for Andallan aircraft, or, in this situation, one that would convince Andallan airlines to bribe these corrupt officials to continue allowing them to operate. As Deltannia is an important stop along the route from Andalla to Europa (aircraft at that time still couldn't cross the Oriental Ocean), the issue gains much attention and Andallan aviation officials work to standardize regulations with Deltannia.

At one point as the two nations begin work to standardizing regulations, somebody has a lightbulb moment: "Why can't we get the whole world to standardize along with us?" At first most higher officials are skeptical about the idea but are soon convinced. Using Andalla's well-developed diplomatic connections thanks to trade, more nations are invited to join the agreement - effectively forming the very first international air safety organization.


I don't want to have to force anyone to join, so I'll keep it voluntary. There will come a point where I will post an invitation to the nations of the world regarding the agreement, and it will be up to you to send a reply on the thread. To retain as much appeal as possible I'll try to stay away from any legalese - only using specific terms for clarification or when really needed. I won't even attempt posting the actual words of the agreement, nor even outlining it. We have the IRL ICAO documents for that.

Well, then... Why join, you say? What benefits would such an agreement have to offer?

In short, everything "aviation" today is what it has to offer. Airports are built according to standardized instructions, aircraft are built with safety regulations and other certain requirements, airlines operate on a set of rules, pilots are certified, communication is standardized, everything. Aviation is a very vague and exploitable yet extremely vital industry in connecting the world. Therefore it's essential to set up these regulations, or the world would be a mess. Surely each nation would set up its own sort of regulations, but there's no denying the fact that there will be nations with more lenient rules, and, perhaps, those with no rules whatsoever.


Alright, alright. Here comes the sad part - what you'd have to do if you were a part of this agreement. And since nobody actually cares about what their nation is doing IC, I'll name the OOC matters, those that may need you to change your writing or story a bit:

Proper Conventions. This one's more of a "reminder" than an actual requirement - observe proper conventions when referring to any aviation-related topics, and in general, any topic. Allow me to say, however: You are forgiven. Everybody makes mistakes and you don't need to be forced to correct each one, especially when it's only minor. And, of course, it's not like I or anyone will be mad at you making a mistake; in most cases I'd even offer to help. But if you're part of this agreement, you shouldn't have a runway called "Runway Tango" or "Runway President Donald J. Trump" or "Runway 999" or anything like that. Runways are named according to their heading (direction) divided by 10. For example, a runway heading 270 degrees would be called "Runway 27". It's for easy identification as it only consists of two numbers (and sometimes a letter, in special situations) and also gives pilots an idea of where they will end up if they use that runway.

Overflight. Aviation is just as politically complicated as any other nation-connecting thingy is. Being a part of this agreement, you are expected to allow fellow members the right of operating within your territory (with permission, of course). There are some special exceptions such as some nations being banned from other nations' airspaces, or safety issues, and the like. But just because you found out this guy you have never talked to on Discord apparently passes through your airspace in some flights doesn't mean you now have the right to shoot them all down. Without an IC basis, everyone in the agreement is expected to allow everyone else to pass peacefully.

Airport Codes. Wow, there's more?! Thankfully, this is the last one since the above two were actually quite vague and ended up covering everything I wanted to cover. So the last one is airport codes - simply assigning 4-letter codes to your airports or aerodromes. If you've seen a detailed description of an airport you may have seen a 4-letter code that is assigned by ICAO. Some examples are KLAX for LAX, VHHH for Hong Kong, and RPLL for Manila. You may notice that airports close to each other tend to bear the same first letter, and airports in the same country tend to bear the same first two letters. ICAO assigns a one-letter code to each of the world's major geographic regions, the second letter is for a specific country in that region, and the last two are up to the nation to decide. An example is RPLL for Manila: "R" for Southeast Asia, "RP" for the Philippines which is located in Southeast Asia, and "LL" as the two-letter code for Manila. Do note that cities with more than one airport (for example London with London City and Heathrow) will almost always have two separate codes, unless the city's only airport was demolished and moved to another location (Hong Kong - VHHH used to be at Kai Tak but was moved to Chek Lap Kok; since it's the only airport there the code was simply transferred).

Now that was long. And it was only supposed to be about random 4-letter codes. What exactly do you have to do about it? Well, once the organization is established I'll be assigning the first two letters to every participating nation; it's up to you to determine the last two for each of your airports. Of course you don't have to name each one; the busiest will do. Anyway a country's airport will probably be needed at least once in RP during an international event. It's just for formality's sake. If you opt not to then you actually don't need to make the code.


I'll leave it at that; I realized it was getting long. So here you go, that's basically everything you need to know about it. The name? We'll decide soon, but not now. Remember, I'm open to any comments that may arise since I need all the help I can get. Looking forward to your nation's participation!

P.S. When will we reach the part in RP where your nation will actually be needed? Give it a month, perhaps. No big deal. Unfortunately I have a life away from Europa too, and to make matters worse this life is overloaded with schoolwork 😭

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It was 1948, Andy boi. Get your dates right - Andy (see edit history)
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On 8/14/2018 at 8:22 AM, Gallambria said:

With regards to the Airport codes -- I'm actually working on a system at the moment, that would be similar to how ICAO codes are actually assigned.

That would be great. Could you perhaps send me a copy of what has been done so far? I'd like to see it 😉

Let's hope my country code will sound nice


Also, allow me to remind y'all that we don't yet have a name for this thing. Could we have some suggestions?

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International Aviation Safety Authority?

So basically the format is [COUNTRY CODE / ZONE + SPECIAL CODE -  2 CHARS ] + [AIRPORT ID CODE]

What I've done is split the wurld up into 15 zones (set out below)

RaPnpdZ.png

 

Then each nation within each zone is applied a special identifier based on the zone.

  • A - Zone 1 (West Argis)
    • AB - Bealeareas
    • AH - Hellenic Rus
    • AI -- Iverica
    • AS - St Francoisburg
  • B - Zone 2 (West Alharu)
    • BC - Cashar
    • BG - Giotko
    • BK - Kaitaine
    • BL - Lusitropia
    • BS - Selayar
  • C - Zone 3 (Thalassa)
    • CA - Andalla
    • CD - Dobby is Free
    • CF - Futanarien
    • CS - Sunset Sea Islands
  • D - Zone 4 (East Alharu)
    • DF - Fulgistan
    • DL - Limonia
    • DM - Mauridiviah
    • DR - Faramount
    • DV - Variota
  • E - Zone 5 (Aurelia)
    • EL - Little Flau
    • ER - Rihan
    • ES - Shffahkia
  • F - Zone 6 (South East Argis)
    • FA - Aluxia
    • FC - Cavunia
    • FD - Derthalen
    • FE - Eurofuhrer
    • FG - Girkmand
    • FL - Seylos
    • FM - Morheim
    • FP - Poland-Lithuania
    • FR - Greater Serbia
    • FS - Saale
    • FV - Valacia
    • FY - Sayf
  • G - Zone 7 (East Argis)
    • GA - Ahrana
    • GP - Prymont
    • GS - Astriedan
    • GT - Theodoria
  • H - Zone 8 (Marenesia / Adisi Ocean)
    • HA - Ashford & Tarago
    • HG - Gallambria
    • HI - Imperial States of Europe
    • HO - Gallambrian Overseas Adlantic Territories
    • HP - Pallamara
    • HS - Synturia
  • K - Zone 9 (North West Europa)
    • KA - Adaptus
    • KB - Beautancus
    • KG - Great Burlington
    • KH - Havebergen
    • KM - Machina Haruspex
    • KS - Social Democratic Confederation
    • KT - Tagmatium
  • L - Zone 10 (South West Europa)
    • LA - Afropa
    • LB - Bhalman
    • LC - Cabarria
    • LD - Dragonryders
    • LE - Joe Bobs
    • LH - Hakenriders
    • LJ - Jilderen
    • LK - Kualoa
    • LN - Novanya
    • LR - Reposa
    • LT - The Europa Empire
    • LV - Damak Var
    • LY - Cypriceos
  • M - Zone 11 (Central Europa)
    • MA - Assurym
    • MM - Mirian Republic
    • MS - Suverina
    • MV - Vanamrambaion
  • N - Zone 12 (South East Europa)
    • NA - Bainbridge Island
    • NB - Byzantium Nova
    • NC - Cristina
    • ND - Rennd
    • NE - Emakera
    • NF - Fleur de Lys
    • NG - Magnaeus
    • NI - Miiros
    • NL - Mantella
    • NM - Mahdah
    • NN - Niederoestereich
    • NP - Pirilao
    • NR - Red Iberic Workers
    • NT - The Cat Hunters
  • O - Zone 13 (East Europa)
    • OE - Emakera
    • OI - Italgria
    • OM - Miiros
    • OO - Orioni
    • OR - Rekamgil
    • OS - Savoski
    • OT - Montgisard
    • OY - Youtabonia
  • P - Zone 14 (North East Europa)
    • PA - Argenland
    • PG - Great United Kingdom
    • PI - Ide Jima
    • PJ - Jaihu
    • PM - Miiros
    • PN - Nan Gorgwaith
  • R - Zone 15 (North Europa)
    • RA - Akiiryu
    • RD - Deltannia
    • RK - Kathenia
    • RL - Phil IV
    • RM - Mongol-Swedes
    • RP - Paranoid Schizo
    • RQ - Qardania
    • RV - Vocenae
  • Y - Zone 16 (Antargis)
    • YI - ISTC Airfields

So taking this into consideration, for example Bromwich International Airport could be HGBW.

 

edit: A Majority of these will be redundant due to CTE etc... but yeah. good thanks.

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On 8/16/2018 at 2:17 PM, Gallambria said:

International Aviation Safety Authority?

So basically the format is [COUNTRY CODE / ZONE + SPECIAL CODE -  2 CHARS ] + [AIRPORT ID CODE]

What I've done is split the wurld up into 15 zones (set out below)

RaPnpdZ.png

 

Then each nation within each zone is applied a special identifier based on the zone.

  • A - Zone 1 (West Argis)
    • AB - Bealeareas
    • AH - Hellenic Rus
    • AI -- Iverica
    • AS - St Francoisburg
  • B - Zone 2 (West Alharu)
    • BC - Cashar
    • BG - Giotko
    • BK - Kaitaine
    • BL - Lusitropia
    • BS - Selayar
  • C - Zone 3 (Thalassa)
    • CA - Andalla
    • CD - Dobby is Free
    • CF - Futanarien
    • CS - Sunset Sea Islands
  • D - Zone 4 (East Alharu)
    • DF - Fulgistan
    • DL - Limonia
    • DM - Mauridiviah
    • DR - Faramount
    • DV - Variota
  • E - Zone 5 (Aurelia)
    • EL - Little Flau
    • ER - Rihan
    • ES - Shffahkia
  • F - Zone 6 (South East Argis)
    • FA - Aluxia
    • FC - Cavunia
    • FD - Derthalen
    • FE - Eurofuhrer
    • FG - Girkmand
    • FL - Seylos
    • FM - Morheim
    • FP - Poland-Lithuania
    • FR - Greater Serbia
    • FS - Saale
    • FV - Valacia
    • FY - Sayf
  • G - Zone 7 (East Argis)
    • GA - Ahrana
    • GP - Prymont
    • GS - Astriedan
    • GT - Theodoria
  • H - Zone 8 (Marenesia / Adisi Ocean)
    • HA - Ashford & Tarago
    • HG - Gallambria
    • HI - Imperial States of Europe
    • HO - Gallambrian Overseas Adlantic Territories
    • HP - Pallamara
    • HS - Synturia
  • K - Zone 9 (North West Europa)
    • KA - Adaptus
    • KB - Beautancus
    • KG - Great Burlington
    • KH - Havebergen
    • KM - Machina Haruspex
    • KS - Social Democratic Confederation
    • KT - Tagmatium
  • L - Zone 10 (South West Europa)
    • LA - Afropa
    • LB - Bhalman
    • LC - Cabarria
    • LD - Dragonryders
    • LE - Joe Bobs
    • LH - Hakenriders
    • LJ - Jilderen
    • LK - Kualoa
    • LN - Novanya
    • LR - Reposa
    • LT - The Europa Empire
    • LV - Damak Var
    • LY - Cypriceos
  • M - Zone 11 (Central Europa)
    • MA - Assurym
    • MM - Mirian Republic
    • MS - Suverina
    • MV - Vanamrambaion
  • N - Zone 12 (South East Europa)
    • NA - Bainbridge Island
    • NB - Byzantium Nova
    • NC - Cristina
    • ND - Rennd
    • NE - Emakera
    • NF - Fleur de Lys
    • NG - Magnaeus
    • NI - Miiros
    • NL - Mantella
    • NM - Mahdah
    • NN - Niederoestereich
    • NP - Pirilao
    • NR - Red Iberic Workers
    • NT - The Cat Hunters
  • O - Zone 13 (East Europa)
    • OE - Emakera
    • OI - Italgria
    • OM - Miiros
    • OO - Orioni
    • OR - Rekamgil
    • OS - Savoski
    • OT - Montgisard
    • OY - Youtabonia
  • P - Zone 14 (North East Europa)
    • PA - Argenland
    • PG - Great United Kingdom
    • PI - Ide Jima
    • PJ - Jaihu
    • PM - Miiros
    • PN - Nan Gorgwaith
  • R - Zone 15 (North Europa)
    • RA - Akiiryu
    • RD - Deltannia
    • RK - Kathenia
    • RL - Phil IV
    • RM - Mongol-Swedes
    • RP - Paranoid Schizo
    • RQ - Qardania
    • RV - Vocenae
  • Y - Zone 16 (Antargis)
    • YI - ISTC Airfields

So taking this into consideration, for example Bromwich International Airport could be HGBW.

 

edit: A Majority of these will be redundant due to CTE etc... but yeah. good thanks.

Great work, loving it! One suggestion though: Perhaps include different codes for territories, such as what you did for the Ashford and Tarago Islands. But you should do it on a per-request (OOC) basis as it will be really hard looking for all the world's territories.

As there's really no more space in the C-zone, I'll get CG for Giokto.

Oh, and one more thing: The lone island to the far southwest of Futanarien is an NPC nation known as Burkini, created by @Orioni mostly for the purpose of allowing short-range aircraft to cross the Oriental Ocean. Try this for reference.

And one last thing, IASA sounds okay. But it might lose relevance as it would grow to regulate more than just safety, I guess? Perhaps we could use that as the old name. Also, are we going to change it once it gets incorporated into the UEL?

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On 8/26/2018 at 10:46 PM, Rihan said:

I wouldn't make the coding anymore in-depth than what Gallambria recommended but each to their own. I could live with a case-by-case on territories assuming they need their own, otherwise, I'd keep it to those associated with the main nation, regardless of region.

 

If we could set up the proper mechanisms, I'd be completely willing to maintain any list of these codes if needed.

Anyway. One more thing as we go about organizing this: registration. As far as I'm concerned nobody really needs it unless they want to be really detailed in their aviation posts (ehrm... me) so naturally we won't be going deep into it. I'm sure everyone will be sensible enough to adopt their own reasonable aircraft registration system if need be. One problem we have, though, is the prefix. Right now we could perhaps use the ISO country code for simplicity, but it's not unusual to see absolutely absurd registration codes, like N for the US, B for China and 9V for Singapore. What or who determines this? A whole host of different factors influenced these prefixes when they were determined and so can ours. But of course it would get confusing and many wouldn't approve of it, so I'm leaving this here for discussion.

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