Cabarrian Expansion

[Cabarria]

Well, I think I might have the rough idea of how Cabarria annexes plots 136 and 138... so here goes a broad outline of how things may progress.

 

Basically, these are two countries (Zharr/138 to the south, Ishakor/136 to the north) that have hated each other for years. Cabarria has commercial and social interests in both countries, having tried to act somewhat as a mediator/buffer between the two.

 

Unfortunately, an attack on a jetliner causes them to declare war on each other. I'm not sure yet whether Cabarria will choose sides, or exactly what actions we'll take as the war develops, but basically the two sides pretty much decimate each other, perhaps with biological or radiological weapons, and at the end Cabarria occupies/absorbs the ravaged territories to restore some semblance of order.

 

I thought it might be slightly more interesting than simply saying, "We don't like you, so we're taking your land!" Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated before I begin.

[Tagmatium Rules]

International peacekeepers!

[Cabarria]

I think you're proposing some kind of coalition intervene to quell the violence, yes? That's OK with me, and it's actually all right if people wish to side with one warring nation over another.

 

You can picture Zharr as a sort of poor secular totalitarian state, and Ishakor as a populous autocratic theocracy. I was definitely planning on having the native populations do a great deal of damage to each other before any intervention happens, but that's up to how it develops I suppose.

[Cabarria]

I had a request for further political info regarding Zharr and Ishakor. I thought I'd also post it here. The quick and dirty answer: Truthfully I haven't given it a lot of thought, but in my mind I see Zharr as a militaristic socialist regime with capitalist elements, and Ishakor as a more socialist state run by theocrats. In both nations there is at least lip service paid to the idea of support of the common man, especially more so in Ishakor, but in both much of the power is concentrated at the top.

 

I can flesh them out more if people tell me what specific info they're interested in.

[Haruspex]

I would be more then happy to aid the Zharr against what they see as a socialist invasion and or whatever they see Ishakor as. It's in the common interest of the Haruspex to destablize the region surrounding it, even in a nation that might otherwise under normal circumstances, not align with them for anything.

 

Fear of a takeover by Ishakor, could inspire them to turn to someone for aid that would gladly aid them in their own self destruction masked with " noble " purposes. If your willing that is.

[Cabarria]

That could be interesting. What sort of aid were you thinking? I assume it would be far too early to actually insert Haru troops into Zharr, maybe some kind of weapons/monetary aid at first? In any case, this would greatly alarm Cabarria. Go ahead and make an introductory move if you wish.

 

Also, to reiterate, everyone should be aware that as part of this expansion RP I was expecting to play out heavy poulation losses in both Zharr and Ishakor, possibly the result of nuclear and biological attacks by both sides. Haru, your intervention may facilitate that.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Wellsy (see edit history)

[Social Democratic Confederation]

The SDC is a militaristic, Syndical nation which might just sympathize with a struggle against theocratic oppression. Though, with the Haru-Cussian conflict already underway, and with Tag and Suv 'beefing-up' of their armed forces, while SDC's close friend in Miiros getting caught in local conflicts, I doubt I'd send any troops. We'd be more apt to send gunds and funds...

[Haruspex]

I shall have a post at the latest by sunday.

[Vocenae]

Just so long that we understand in the end, Wellsy is the owner of those plots.

[Haruspex]

Indeed.

[Vocenae]

That doesn't mean you couldn't set up camp and fight him for a few years, though.

[Social Democratic Confederation]

That might be my course of action. It'd be a shame to see a good socialist state fall to.. umm.. I'm not sure what kind of nation Cabarria is..

[Cabarria]

Cabarria is primarily capitalist with slight socialist tendencies. There is some nationalized industry, but most is private sector. It looks like this is turning into something quite interesting ...

[Miiros]

Miiros might send aid to Cabarria in order to reestablish proper order in the region, but that depends on what's happening near Miiros at the time. Sounds like an exciting thread though! I look forward to reading it.

[Cabarria]

Sounds good, Miiros, I hope you get a chance to participate.

 

Also, to reiterate for reference purposes:

 

ISHAKOR is to the NORTH

 

and

 

ZHARR is to the SOUTH.

[Haruspex]

terribly sorry Wellsy, I am directionally challenged at times. Post has been fixed.

[Cabarria]

Not a problem, I got confused about it myself at points. Hence the reference post

[Beautancus]

Dang it! Wellsy, I'd love to take part in this little adventure, but so far as IC goes, I think that Beautancus is pretty good and well tied up. I will be watching with interest, and may respond IC once the final outcomes of your expansion and the Beau/MH war are clear.

[Cabarria]

Yeah, I would say you're pretty tied up as well. If you think you can add anything, feel free!

 

Haru and Red, thanks for your posts, I'll put one up as soon as possible.

[Beautancus]

As MH pointed out to me, this would probably be something that the Cussians would become involved in, even in a secret agent 007 sense. So at some point, when things start to get really hot down there- I imagine some sort of information sharing will occur. If a visit doesn't too. But not right away.

[Haruspex]

Just you wait..I'll get a version of Dr. No and make nefarious plans!

Heh.

[Tagmatium Rules]

Y'know, Haru, sending troops across Europa when you're attacking another nation, with a hostile nation to your south, isn't the wisest of ideas.

[Haruspex]

Ships are a wonderful thing. It takes longer and has to go a bit longer due to the recent warfare but, if luck holds true, eventually they'll reach their destination.

[Cabarria]

If they aren't stopped, that is ...

[Tagmatium Rules]

Ships are a wonderful thing. It takes longer and has to go a bit longer due to the recent warfare but, if luck holds true, eventually they'll reach their destination.

Indeed ships are a wonderful thing. The Holy Imperial Navy has been finding it so for many years.

 

But seriously, moving large troop formations about would be a costly venture, espeically considering that you're currently involved in a war and are heavily fortifying your southern border. On top of that, your convoy'll have to go the long way round, past Beautancus territory, which may result in losses (although that is, admittedly, up to you and he), as there is no way in hell Tagmatium is going to allow Haruspex to use its canal. Just because your nation has a large amount of funds to spend on the military, doesn't mean that this cash is unlimited. I'd recommend waiting until your war against Beautancus is over, especially as the more troops, ships and aircraft you commit abroad mean less troops, ships and aircraft you can bring to bare up north.