Beautancus Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Ok, now that I'm here and looking to find a way into an interesting story-line, I find myself with a problem: Beautancus is a fairly large nation, with a fairly developed back-story...all from another region with a very different setting. The way things played out there, Beautancus developed into the strongest "native" military power (I say "native" because the longest story-lines there involved a war with a massive Alliance of Invaders from just off the map) and became something of the elder sibling in Jethnea's own Entente (nice to see that one exists in Europa too). I understand that much of that matters little here for Europa's stories...but it does leave me with a problem. What sort of presence would be best received in Europa, or rather what sort of presence is needed? I'd be more than willing to adapt Beautancus' story to Europa, if that sort of thing could work. And heck, if anyone wanted to chance a foray into the realm of high fantasy and ultra-high-tech we might be able to work out something of a regional cross-over. That would be interesting, but would require a good bit of moderation. Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 could you elaborate on your nations a little bit more please, I still carnt quite get what one means by 'native' military power. Link to comment
Beautancus Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 Heh, by "native" military power, I mean that Beautancus was "from" Jethnea, and represented the most powerful military in the region, as opposed to the Alliance none of whom were "native" Jethneans, which was headed by a nation called Machina Haruspex. Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Ah I see. Hmm.... Well, it is up to you how you would want your military presented over here in Europa. But just remember, there are lots of very powerful nations here. No one Nation here can claim to be the dominant military power I believe here. Link to comment
Beautancus Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Oh no, I wouldn't dream of that. That's a large part of the excitement of coming to a new community and establishing oneself, siege by siege (neither does that mean that I simply wish to be dismissed as another newbie trying to make a name...even though for a bit I kinda am). As I have proceeded thus far, I am approaching Beautancus as "native" to Europa, that is, Beautancus has "always" been there, it's just been isolated...I really wish that there was a more unique and interesting way to do that, but there isn't without being out and out sci-fi/fantasy...I would however like to explore the possibility of historical relations between Beautancus and any interested nations in Europa- to build a back-story to work from. Takers? Thoughts? Bashes? Link to comment
Renposa Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Oh no, I wouldn't dream of that. That's a large part of the excitement of coming to a new community and establishing oneself, siege by siege (neither does that mean that I simply wish to be dismissed as another newbie trying to make a name...even though for a bit I kinda am). I certainly would. Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm up for that. Adaptus has a history similar to Greece, China, Britain and Russia combined. Early, Adaptus was very similar to that of the Greek City States, then we had an Alexander the Great style era, then we were invaded by the Romans. For a period, we were under Roman influence, then in a rebellion, we threw away those shackles, and entered a Three Kingdoms style era, which in turn lead to semi-unifaction, which then lead to a Norman style medieval era. But now I'm babbling, so, yeah, i'm up for giving you some help. Link to comment
Cypriceos Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Yo Adaptus that's perfect for my past history. In my history Cypriceos was colonized by an empire simillar to Greek however the area they controlled was enhabited by Germanic tribes and German population which vastly outnumbered the empire which they overthrew and expelled the Greek like empire from the land which is modern day Cypriceos. But before this war you will be victorious in a civil war earlier on Cypriceos simillar to the Pelponesian War but then the battle would weaken the empire's armies. We can say that you controlled my lands in the BC era then through a huge civil war led by a barbaric Germanic leader who overthrew the Empire's control and forced them to leave Valinor. What do you think Adaptus? Link to comment
Beautancus Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) For much of the periods that you (Adaptus) mentioned, Beautancus might resembled the Parthian Kingdom of ancient Iran. Heavy Scythian/Saka traditions amongst the Parni aristocracy (as they were thought to be from "Persianized" Scythian stock). All of that said, that means that Beautancus will be a sort of tribal confederation, remarkable for its deadly mounted archers...and maybe even Immortals, who would most definitely not resemble the Persian Immortals from that period. That really all depends on how far they go back in Beautancus' history. Beautancus could serve as either a major trading destination, as during that time there wasn't enough cultural uniformity for the Cussians to be especially xenophobic, or a tribe/clan of Cussian warriors might make interesting mercenaries/body-guards (like the Byzantine Basileus' Varangian Guard) or allies, which could spice up any war...Peloponnesian-esque or not. Edited June 7, 2007 by Beautancus (see edit history) Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 @Cyp: Sounds great, that is good RP potential Excellent stuff. @Beaut: Hmmm...I had a feeling you would have had a sort of Persian style past. enemy potential for Adaptus, or rather old Adaptus. Link to comment
Cypriceos Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Beaut mabye you could join this possible rp in the future. IDEA: Adaptus has controlled Cypriceos in the BC era however a new empire is rising and seeks control of what is modern day Cypriceos. You two will slug it out on the lands of Cypriceos and both of you will make deals with the Germanic tribes on the mainland however whoever wins won't fullfil their end of the deal and one of these barbaric tribe leaders will get pissed and start a huge alliance with the other tribes followed by a rebellion. It will combine Greek and Canadian history. Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Or how about...... Adpatus, under my version of Alexander the Great conquers what is now modern day Cypriceos, after Alexander's death, Germanic tribes begin to rebel, and a war breaks out between the Imperian Empire (Adaptus at the time) and the Germanic peoples, however it is interrupted as the Romans invade Adaptus, which requires use to withdraw from modern day Cypriceos to fight off the Romans. How about that? Link to comment
Beautancus Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 I may have a friend that could supply a nation to fill the "Roman" part. Stegetefter, the newest addition to the forums and region is a long-time friend of mine, and currently a high ranking official in a few regions still making a go of it...He's got great credentials as a historian, and could bring a good bit of authenticity to the story. If he's up for it. Also...what better enemy for peoples based on Alexander's Macedonians and Greeks, and a people based on Romans than a people based (loosely) on Persians? Link to comment
Tagmatium Rules Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 My nation's kind of a bastardised Roman Empire... but especially the Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire. I suspect I'm way out of that particular time period, especially as Tagmatium was founded in AD887 - before that it was an insignificant trading outpost. However, I smell a historical RP coming on... Link to comment
Vocenae Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Vocenae was a loose confederation of clans that raided and explored most of northern Europa until the 1600s, when there was an internal dispute that had most of the clans joining to fight a clan that had claimed rule over all the other clans. So after a massive battle the ruling families of the united clans formed Vocenae's first government which was basically a fuedal society until the 1840s. Essentially, it was Norway with some creative licenses taken to it. So I'm not sure what role I could play if you guys decide to do something... Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I think your right Tag. Oh Voc, what about Vikings? Link to comment
Vocenae Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 I had them, if that's what you're asking. Yeah, back when Grey was excavating his ancient city I think we discussed finding wrecked Vocian longships from Viking raiders that hailed from Vocenae. Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Cool, perhaps some ancient troubles between us too maybe? Link to comment
Cypriceos Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Speaking of history. Adaptus? I have an idea that I want to use that I and Yak have used before in Nova Atlantica and Americana I see alot of people's history pages and stats spread out all over the forums. My solution will allow the pages and stats to be well organized and accessed though one page. At one point nations that applied to have their own history page had sub forums for each nation and some had their own pages for military, history, economy, and entire culture pages. However you can still keep rp page for different era's in Europa. Here's what it looked like for Americana Click here Link to comment
Cabarria Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I might add that Cabarria is meant to have a sort of Celtic/Viking/modern medieval nation sort of heritage, since we're on the subject. And if it makes a difference Link to comment
Adaptus Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 That's a good idea Cyp, but it takes up a whole load of space, and stuff, and Europa is already slightly slow, perhaps we could organise a sort of history and overview section. Link to comment
Beautancus Posted June 9, 2007 Author Share Posted June 9, 2007 I think I have a monopoly (excluding Tag's Byzantine elements) on the Near Eastern style. Either way, I'd be up for anything with this...maybe something resembling a Scythian/Parthian "expeditionary" Horde? There's just so much that could be done with all of these ideas. Also, throughout a broad span of about a fifteen hundred years including any of the dates mentioned in this Beautancus was pretty much unchanged, united only rarely under a single Great-King (one of whom will rule during our story, regardless of the date). Some vocabulary and philosophical concepts might be different, and technological advances would have taken effect, but the general Cussian cultural accouterments and would be the same. Link to comment
Miiros Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Chiming in late here, but Miiros used to be an island of many celtic tribes divided between those who built cities and those who remained nomadic. They warred for hundreds, if not thousands of years. This lasted until they were invaded by the Roman Republic in 130 BC. Miiros was Romanised, but the Republic was ailing and soon they broke free of Roman rule. A Romano-Miirosi culture endures to this very day with classical influences evident everywhere. The Miirosi have a strong maritime tradition and were master explorers, diplomats, and merchants for much of their history. Currently they have one of the strongest economies in Europa. Being a seafaring nation, it would not be odd for Miiros to have interacted with your nation. Link to comment
Cypriceos Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 We also need some kind of World War here cause after all my nation is based on Germany Link to comment
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