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OOC: $250,000,000,000 is a bit excessive, Suv. Your government may be turning over a lot more than that, but it'd be a huge blow to your nation's economy as well as leaving a department, or several, with a much smaller budget. Nations just cannot throw that sort of money to aid foreign political parties.

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OOC: I took it from my government waste. And yes it is a large sum.'

Split to OOC shall we?

 

Besides it's not just aiding a political party, it's making SURE that they win. (or atleast Suverina thinks so)

 

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Government waste: 4.680.000.000.000

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The whole idea behind Government Waste is that it is wasted, whether as red tape, corruption or a clerk losing the keys to the safe. Money can't be taken from Government Waste as it is lost to the government. It's sort of like me attempting to pay for something with that ?5 note I lost. It's gone, it can't be used for anything else.

 

And I still say it's way too much. $25 million would still be a very impressive sum to donate, and it wouldn't shatter your economy in the process.

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No it wouldn't. your just jealous because my economy is so strong....

 

Let's see it as WAR then.

 

defencebudget:

6.630.000.000.000 - Instead of buying something stupid we invest 250 billions in Miiros. We know if the red alliance(or whatever they are called) wins we can easily force them to give it back twice...

 

Edit: Besides you also have a planned economy! HA! laugh.gif

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You realise that the budget is allocated to cover what is spent during the course of the year, based on last year's expediture? If a large slice of that was taken from there it, would mean that your army doesn't get their shiny new tanks, or as much petrol, or as much ammunition or something. Something will lose out if that sort of money is spent somewhere else. Such a large sum cannot be spent without a part of your nation suffering due to the amount of money involved.

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Hmm, I also thought the amount was a bit excessive, but I didn't say anything. A few million would still go a long way if you want to make a very large donation. It will still get the message out there and get the RA off the ground and definitely will have it replace the UWM party in the poor sectors.

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Mod Comment: Suv, the amount is so unrealistic it is funny. If you want to follow this path, you will effectively bankrupt your country. Chrsit! No country, no matter how rich, is going to throw that kind of money at a bunch of unknowns! I should also like to point out the field day other parties would have (can you say lackeys of another power...). My ruling is this: change the amount RADICALLY or rp the economic collapse of your government. Maybe I am being mean, but I am being realistic. I mean that money should have been spent of paying school teachers, cops and, irony of ironies, government employees.

 

Miiros. Hold the phone until this is resolved.

 

 

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Mod Comment: Five Billion?  Oh God!  Suv this is just silly, admittedly, it is better than 250 Billion, but still.  How about some reality?

 

NO NO and NO. It is realistic. No doubt.

 

No donations in real-life to political parties have been close to this. But foreign aid to nations have exceeded this several, several times. See it as a donation to a country, or atleast our hope is that this will get the red alliance in power(therfore they'll be the country). See it as a peaceful coup. Coup costs, ALOT. I'm just not giving them the money so they can buy enormous houses for themselves, my queen and lots of politicians is planning to visit the country, so they can plan the campaign.

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Would you please provide an example of foreign aid given in a lump sum like this to a small, unknown political party (ie not state or region)? I still question the reality of this, especially know as you claim the Queen and co are going to go to Miiros to tell the RA how to spend the money...I mean that is the kiss of death for the RA think about...a foreign QUEEN paying billions of dollars to the RF...see a problem there? I do. I also see an opportunity for other parties to destroy the RF credibility.

 

Moreover, just where are is SUV pulling that 5 Billion from?

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Plus, even with a trillion dollars, the Red Alliance couldn't carry the core Libertarian regions of the Free City unless they bought votes, which would not work here. It would be like America's northeast suddenly flipping from liberal to conservative. They're assumed to be automatic blue-states in the elections. There is a limit to how much the RA can win in this election.

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Suv, throwing money at a problem doesn't solve it. Nor does telling a foreign power how to run itself. Come on, think of real-world examples where a foreign nation throws money into a nation and comes into that nation and tells them how to run it. THINK THINK THINK!

 

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Unless you actually want that party to lose, that is...

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That looks a bit like Iraq... huh.gif

 

This is the cost of the war against Iraq: 313,812,000,000$

 

A bit more than 5 billion ey? Only 60 times more.

 

We are not doomed to act in the paths of real-life nations, instead we make our own paths. Trying to make them realistic ofcourse. Let my country have dreams, dreams of a better future. A future of socialism! We might not win, we might fail completely. Let me do so, then you can all laugh at our dreams if you'd like to.

 

I quote Pirilao:

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams

 

 

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Suv, don't try to wriggle out of this one.

 

Me, Aki and the rest have stated our reasons, and lowering it to $5 billion is a bit of a two-fingers to us. It's just not feasible that a nation would throw that sort of money at a political party, for all of the above reasons.

 

I seriously recommend lowering it to the tens of millions, and not any higher.

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That looks a bit like Iraq...  huh.gif

 

This is the cost of the war against Iraq: 313,812,000,000$

 

A bit more than 5 billion ey? Only 60 times more.

 

Goodness Suv,

 

So now you're proposing to invade and occupy Miiros? That is why the US has dumped so much money in Iraq...and a lot of people in the states are far from happy about it (it is also not helping the US economy much either).

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Hey, if roleplaying smug royalty is what you're all about, then go ahead with it.

 

We all know where smug royalty went...did I mention I am also part French?

 

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And stop using me as an excuse to throw money around and act like it won't even phase you...in the end you're really doing the same thing my nation did. And if there's any realism to this, throwing around billions of dollars to fund other nations to end up looking like yours is gonna bring it to a grinding halt.

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