Akiiryu Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 Okay guys, I've been thinking. Yes, be very worried about that. After the accusations thrown at me by US (the worst you haven't seen as they were sent to me via pms and, in my case I can't cut and past on this computer) about me being someone who gets off on my power and ruins rps by censoring people's free speech/questioning rp reality I want to know what you think. I also want to know how you'd like me and the other mods to handle things in the future. Frankly, I really don't think I've done anything wrong in the past, but if you think I have please tell me. Now I know I am painting a big target on my forehead here, but the resounding silence that came from most of the board members when US decided to have a go at me has got me wondering if prehaps some people agree with him in spirit, if not tactics. Is this the case? What would like me to do better? Be honest here folks, with the proviso you don't insult me (or the other mods). Also feel free to pm me if you want to discuss the issues more privately. Finally, to the people who have talked to me, and you know who you are, thanks. A extra big thanks to Miiros who backed me against US's rants. I might also say that other mods have experienced similar stuff in the past. Tag especially has been on the recieving end of some rather pointed and, IMHO unfair, criticisms. So let's just get this sorted eh?
Haken Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) What can I say? Thank you for ridding out the weeds on this forum. Yes I that's what I say and only will say. (Sorry for the over-dramatic approach, still in the Middle Ages RP-mood) EDIT: One more thing, the reason why I was so quiet with the US-thing was because I couldn't go on the forum that day and later found a bunch of threads that confused me of the fact wether he was leaving or staying. I wouldn't have mind if he stayed though. Edited April 21, 2006 by Haken (see edit history)
Akiiryu Posted April 21, 2006 Author Posted April 21, 2006 What can I say? Thank you for ridding out the weeds on this forum. Yes I that's what I say and only will say. (Sorry for the over-dramatic approach, still in the Middle Ages RP-mood) EDIT: One more thing, the reason why I was so quiet with the US-thing was because I couldn't go on the forum that day and later found a bunch of threads that confused me of the fact wether he was leaving or staying. I wouldn't have mind if he stayed though. Haken, No need to explain.
Orioni Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 Akiiryu, I don't think anyone will be targeting you personally. The only thing I could possibly remark is that your title ("Reality Bastard") seems to come in handy in a rant. I'm not going to advise that you change it, since you are a senator and people should respect all senators, regardless of any humerous content.
Rekamgil Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) No. I like the reality enforcement. Without it, people - it seems to me - start to take too many liberties and the realism suffers. The fun of this game is the realism for me. When people start jumping the gun, it also makes the careful work that others have done meaningless. For example, I've spent two months building up a 12 ship navy. Maybe that's a bit excessive, but when someone else comes along and does so in a week, it can be annoying. Also, people tend to act as if they have no responsibilities to other players and their nations. Like if you're in an alliance... one should take it seriously because other members are relying on your acting appropriately. If you intentionally want to stir things up, that's fine, but by acting without thinking and making war and pissing people off just because it's easier... that's not cool. I think the mods are absolutely necessary to enforce these types of things. As for freedom of speech... well of course everyone has the legal right to say whatever the hell they want, no matter how objectionable everyone else here might find it. But this is a game moderated by people whose job it is to enforce the rules. If limiting objectionable language is one of the rules, it is the mod's duty (both from a rules-based and morality-based perspective) to do so. However, I feel like the mod's set "house rules". And if someone's over at my house playing a game and they start in with "Ni**er" and insulting other players, then I'll be asking them to stop it, or to please leave. This is what Akiiryu did and he was 100% in the right... plain and simple. You have the right to say what you please, but we're playing a friendly game here and if you want to say things that might bother other players, you'd better expect that you might be asked to stop it or leave. Aki, I didn't get in on the argument until it was in full swing. I also tend to operate on a one-on-one basis so I'll defend myself if attacked and would not presume to step into someone else's argument because I don't know what offends other people, just what offends me. I thought you stood up for yourself admirably and, for the record, I agree with you, I support you, and I would be surprised and disappointed if others demanded your "resignation". So you have my vote of confidence. EDIT: Just remembered what LBJ said to Lester Pearson: "How dare you come into my house and piss on the rug?" Edited April 21, 2006 by Rekamgil (see edit history)
Adaptus Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 Now i must say, i was in the thick of the argument, however I was being a bit childish, but thats what i'm like somtimes. Although, what you done Aki was the right thing, and I am glad you done that. I also agree with you on what was going on with the US. Now on the subject of moding, and reality control, well. I must say we are hard arses when it come to reality, but I belive thats a good thing. Europa was my first region, and once i began venturing into other regions, with ambassador jobs and things, I was shocked to see how little control other regions had over RP realisim, and quite frankly alot of the RP's were sh*te. Now thanks to a hard arse position on realist i belive we have an extreamly high standard of RP in this region, and it's one i'm proud to say i am part of, and thats down to the founders of this regions and the people who have upholded suck reality since this region started. It's because of people like Aki and Tag we have such a high standard of RP here.
Bashovia and Erbery Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 Aki, you were here when i was Free-Ekainak and I have never known you to be an asshole in RP. Upper S was that, an ass. I must apologize for my statement against US. I was very excited about his comments and i may have gone alittle to far insulting him and telling him to crawl up and die. I commend you on his departure, or I would have left; He is the kind of American that makes me want to leave my country, a idiot who watches propaganda and calls it fair and unbalanced. Sorry for being childish when insulted.
Orioni Posted April 21, 2006 Posted April 21, 2006 Now on the subject of moding, and reality control, well. I must say we are hard arses when it come to reality, but I belive thats a good thing. Europa was my first region, and once i began venturing into other regions, with ambassador jobs and things, I was shocked to see how little control other regions had over RP realisim, and quite frankly alot of the RP's were sh*te. Now thanks to a hard arse position on realist i belive we have an extreamly high standard of RP in this region, and it's one i'm proud to say i am part of, and thats down to the founders of this regions and the people who have upholded suck reality since this region started. It's because of people like Aki and Tag we have such a high standard of RP here. I wholeheartedly agree with you on this, Adaptus! I don't mean to sound condescending but I think, from what I've seen so far, that this region houses some of the best role-playing NationStates has to offer. If we have be tough to enforce some quality standards, then so be it. I'm not prepared to sit back and watch this region go down the toilet; not on my watch. Now I know I may be going a bit off-topic here, but what I mean to say is that things can sometimes get heated, and if that happens, we have experienced moderators who have proven more then once that they can handle sticky situations. If they weren't to be trusted, they would not have been appointed in the first place.
Ide Jima Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 I agree. Were it not for the 'reality bastard' approach, we'd really be up the creek without a paddle.
Rekamgil Posted April 22, 2006 Posted April 22, 2006 Oh, also, I like the "reality bastard" title... one knows what one can expect when dealing with... the Reality Bastard.
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