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Things are getting heated regarding the frozen continent.

Remmen has made some direct points, although I've tried not to word them too harshly. @Orioni, where is the room for compromise? As it stands we're at a stalemate. EOS is breaking one rule while enforcing others. Perhaps it'd be an easier pill to swallow if you had two segments of Antargis to manage rather than the proposed one? Ultimately I don't see it as acceptable for EOS to maintain such a stronghold over the continent, as interesting a plot point as it is. This should be fair for everyone.

As much as I'd love for the HQ to be in Prymont, Remmen would accept it going to Orioni - as long as it resolves the issues.

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I need to find a way out of the stalemate without losing face. Some kind of hollow victory. Just not the HQ, because that'd just cost money. And the HQ is no use for spying on communications, if I'll soon be using the 5G networks of Gallambria and SSI, both of which are ISTC members.

In order of importance, I think what I want is:

  1. For EOS to remain a recognised partner, even with the "whole military not allowed" argument. I'd argue that we signed the treaty, hosted a council, and were invited to the 3rd. That already indicates recognition and acceptance. Otherwise we'd lose the option for more drama later on.
  2. Patrol the Antargic coasts for security, delivering goods back and forth on those ice breakers. Potentially sell similar tech to other polar nations.
  3. Fix the search and rescue helicopters so they actually function in the cold climate. Something Aamotech can help with. I'll need to start a trade topic.
  4. (I've dropped the sharing of technical innovations. You could use it as a non-negotiable and Wayanor will give in to this.)
  5. (Drop any opposition to Variota's and Seylos plans for exploitation. Let's leave this door open for future disagreements.)

And in return Mr Wayanor can position himself as the person who:

  1. Is a peace-maker for sharing the large Antargic zones with other nations. A nice PR moment that will help people forget about how much territory he actually gave away.
  2. Secure EOS recognition as an equal partner.
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I think we've reached a fair compromise then. I'm happy with the points raised by @Orioni. There's still an air of uncertainty regarding the definition of EOS and how that fits into the treaty though.

As long as EOS backs down and allows equal zone management as proposed, I don't think there'll be any problems since there have been no issues thus far. However, since Wayanor has agreed that EOS is predominantly a military organisation, if anything fishy were to happen in the future there'd be a strong case to boot EOS out altogether. This allows EOS to remain involved in Antargis, but also allows future drama and hostility.

In conclusion, all sounds good. Remmen will be pleased.

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With the latest update of @Salvia and the Discord discussions, I get the feeling we keep moving the goalpost. This is what it looks like from my point of view. 

  • First it was about allowing in new members which is fine with me. The Aurelian League had already hinted at that.
  • Then it became about redefining the zones and that was always going to happen. A more equal share for all signatories.
  • Now it's about whether or not EOS remains a signatory to ARTHA or not.

On an OOC level I have no problem with the pushback. It makes the international relations more interesting. RL Antarctica has plenty of overlapping claims. It'd increase IC Eurth realism to have more disagreements. Less friendly, less Mary Sue do-gooders. I can also work with that. In the IC realm, if you want to push the EOS out, this 3rd council will end with Mr Wayanor walking away. That's also an interesting conclusion, but not really what we set out to do in the first place. 

Which scenario will it be?

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